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Good news on treating depression
Stingray: a blog for salty Christians ^ | March 23, 2006 | Michael McCullough

Posted on 03/23/2006 11:59:16 AM PST by DallasMike

There is good news today for those who suffer from depression: The largest study ever done on treating depression has found that patients who didn't get well with the first medicine they tried had a good chance of succeeding the second time around.

The study found little difference among the five drugs tested: Celexa, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Effexor and Buspar -- and wasn't designed to compare them. All proved similarly effective and relatively safe. The clear message, doctors said, was that antidepressants should be given a 6-to-12-week chance to work and that if one doesn't help, another should be tried.

"It's important not to give up if the first treatment doesn't work fully," or causes side effects, said one study leader, Dr. John Rush of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas.

Two reports from the study were published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

About 15 million Americans each year suffer depression, which so often recurs that doctors sometimes talk of it as an emotional cancer that is put "in remission" rather than cured.

"We're talking about a very real public health challenge," Insel said. "This is the leading cause of disability in Americans ages 15 to 44," not just a case of "the blues," he said.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: buspar; celexa; christianity; church; depression; effexor; god; jesus; mentalillness; paxil; wellbutrin; zoloft
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1 posted on 03/23/2006 11:59:19 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Does being 'cured' mean a lifetime of taking experimental drugs? Not in my book!


2 posted on 03/23/2006 2:34:28 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek
NO! The glass is half empty!

Just as I saw this thread I was hearing a report on my local TV news about this same study. But, it took a grimmer view, emphasizing that only about half of depressed patients are ever helped by medication.

This interested me because I have long had the opinion that these meds are wildly over hyped. When they work...great. But the marketing message is all over the media "Remember...depression is a treatable illness." They neglect to mention that you can spend a lot of money and receive no benefit at all.

I found an article about this study, which was released today, over on CNN. They also put a strong positive spin on it. But here is the paragraph that stood out to me:

This is good news by itself, but the bigger picture is even more encouraging, doctors say. When viewed with earlier results, the new findings mean that roughly half of people who suffer from depression can get over it -- not just improve their symptoms -- with adequate medication.

Personally, I am not all that encouraged to read that more than one medication must be tried before even half of patients are relieved of symptoms. A lot of running around happens for patients, a lot of meds are tried, a lot of hopes are disappointed, and a lot of money goes into the pockets of the depression industry while half of patients are discovering that they are not being helped. Again, meds are great when they work. But people should have realistic expectations.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/03/23/treating.depression.ap/index.html

3 posted on 03/23/2006 3:13:08 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: DallasMike

bttt


4 posted on 03/23/2006 3:31:16 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: LK44-40

I can attest to that - at least if it's mild depression. About 10 years ago I finally decided to ask my GP about it, and she prescribed Zoloft. I took it for six months. I felt great, however I always new I didn't want to be on anything permanently. Stopped taking it after six months, and I can tell you that it definitely changed something in my chemistry permanently.

I still get depressed mildly every now and then, but I know how to get myself out of it alot quicker than I used to.

Just a personal anecdote from a lurker. : )


5 posted on 03/23/2006 4:46:47 PM PST by MsMoose
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To: MsMoose
Thanks for sharing!

I had a pretty substantial struggle with depressive episodes for a good part of my life and went through the mill with drugs and talk.

There was one occasion when I was completely convinced that one of the drugs dramaticly relieved the depression. Other times, it was trying one and then another. Of course, Paxil is among those that I tried and it is scary stuff, IMO. These drugs definitely do something to your head although, in my experience, it is usually not relieve depression.

The rest of the story: I seemed to age out of it. My life, even now, is not filled with tangerine trees and marmalade skies. But I muddle through and rarely now conceptualize my dreary days as "depression."

6 posted on 03/23/2006 5:44:19 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: DallasMike

If you are depressed, can't functional socially because you are to nervous etc.

DRINK BEER !


7 posted on 03/23/2006 7:44:51 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: wolfcreek
IF you have had a depression that is more painful than any physical pain you have ever experienced, if you feel so shamed because depression is making everthing that you used to enjoy and receive a sense of wellbeing from like climbing huge mountains which black clouds hanging in the way. Well I am such an advocate for parmecuedical intervention. Yes depression does have an onset and a certain amount of weeks can make a natural healing cycle===but why do I hear folks critical of Pharmicotherapy-like these medication are involved in the mind an have we not come to grips with that we are talking a disease not some weirdie thing that you use drugs for helping the mind.
Sort of the stigma of mental health that is ignoranceThank god there is more and research in and area that is far behind the medical system. before the 1950's (when prefrontal lobotomy was an option) there was leeching, cold water sheet wrappin g, restaints, and institutionalizing,
8 posted on 03/23/2006 11:47:00 PM PST by michgirl (9)
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To: LK44-40

Actually, I think you put it better than I did. "Aging out of it" may be a large part of it.

And not dealing with peer pressure anymore, realizing I may be a little different, and maybe that's okay after all. I spent a large part of my 20's and 30's thinking there was something wrong with me and that brought on alot of the depression.

Acceptance of yourself is a large part of the equation, I think. Of course as long as you're a functioning part of society and not a mass-murderer or anything. ;)



9 posted on 03/24/2006 5:45:52 AM PST by MsMoose
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To: festus
"DRINK BEER !"

Works for me!

10 posted on 03/24/2006 5:47:16 AM PST by KoRn
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To: LK44-40
" But, it took a grimmer view, emphasizing that only about half of depressed patients are ever helped by medication."

It is not grim for those patients who were helped.

11 posted on 03/24/2006 5:50:17 AM PST by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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