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Why Do We Only Use One Vote, and Throw Away Two?
3/19/06 | eeevil conservative

Posted on 03/19/2006 9:50:18 AM PST by eeevil conservative

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I know this is a long post and lots of info... but I hope you all take the time to start serving in juries and encouraging others to do the same...

I wouldn't want my jury to be filled with people with a 7th grade education.....

Our courts are going ot the toilet because we have Toilet Trolls on the juries!

It is our CIVIL DUTY to serve.

1 posted on 03/19/2006 9:50:28 AM PST by eeevil conservative
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To: MNJohnnie; rodguy911; Fudd Fan; Peach; jdm; Txsleuth; Bahbah; Phsstpok; CedarDave; varmintxer; ...

PING!

HAPPY RESEARCH AND READING!


2 posted on 03/19/2006 9:51:16 AM PST by eeevil conservative (the GREATONE THINKS I'M GREAT! AND HE AGREES WITH WHATEVER I SAY!)
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bttt


3 posted on 03/19/2006 9:54:43 AM PST by lunarbicep (Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain)
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To: eeevil conservative

It used to be very easy to "escape" jury duty in New Jersey until recently. Now, it's very difficult to be excused and I imagine that's a good thing.


4 posted on 03/19/2006 9:58:16 AM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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later read


5 posted on 03/19/2006 9:58:44 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: eeevil conservative

bttt


6 posted on 03/19/2006 9:59:16 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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Great stuff here eeevil!


7 posted on 03/19/2006 10:01:50 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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danke shon....


8 posted on 03/19/2006 10:03:09 AM PST by eeevil conservative (the GREATONE THINKS I'M GREAT! AND HE AGREES WITH WHATEVER I SAY!)
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I have always been rejected from jury during the selection due to truthfull answers in the screening process, its a joke how prosecuters hand pick jurrors


9 posted on 03/19/2006 10:08:25 AM PST by vrwc0915
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lawyers on BOTH sides WANT people with a 7th grade education...

AMAZING, eh?


10 posted on 03/19/2006 10:11:14 AM PST by eeevil conservative (the GREATONE THINKS I'M GREAT! AND HE AGREES WITH WHATEVER I SAY!)
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They prosecutors tend to look for DUmocrats and Independents for jury duty....if you registered as a Republican, chances are you won't be called.


11 posted on 03/19/2006 10:18:28 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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well that explains it!

I have NEVER been called....EVER!


12 posted on 03/19/2006 10:20:19 AM PST by eeevil conservative (the GREATONE THINKS I'M GREAT! AND HE AGREES WITH WHATEVER I SAY!)
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To: eeevil conservative

GREAT POST!


13 posted on 03/19/2006 10:23:08 AM PST by SUSSA
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When the Constitution was written it was accepted that the law reverted back to the community when a jury was impaneled. That, after all, is what a grand jury is all about.

The same went for trial juries. The accepted form was the the jury would judge both the law and the facts under the guidance, but not the mandate, of the judge. I have researched an instance where a grand jury was dismissed and, believing a judge to be corrupt kept right on meeting. The governor of the state upon reading this "dismissed" jury's recommendation then attempted to talk the judge into resigning. After awhile the judge was removed by force. The governor--a true upper-crust Federalist--then allowed what was essentially a "sham" prosecution of those removing the judge and when it was all over pardoned the leaders of the action.

A lot has been written on how jury rights were eroded near the beginning of the 19th century. You might want to check Amar's book: "The Biography of the Constitution" and look up his citations on this.

McVey


14 posted on 03/19/2006 10:23:49 AM PST by mcvey
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WOW!

Thanks for that info!!

will have to check out that book!


15 posted on 03/19/2006 10:26:00 AM PST by eeevil conservative (the GREATONE THINKS I'M GREAT! AND HE AGREES WITH WHATEVER I SAY!)
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Most DUmocrats and Independents are "squishy" when it comes to cases in law....easily manipulated by lawyer speak. Republicans are more cemented in their beliefs and know when a lawyer is blowing smoke. If you have a brain, you WON'T be called!


16 posted on 03/19/2006 10:28:23 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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I wouldn't want my jury to be filled with people with a 7th grade education.....

The last jury panel I was on, I got tossed because it turned out my ex-wife had clerked for the prosecutor.

17 posted on 03/19/2006 10:29:37 AM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: eeevil conservative

Wanted to make certain I gave you the correct citation.

It is Akhil Reed Amar, "America's Consitution: A Biography" (New York: Random House, 2005). It is an interesting read in and of itself. You need to dig into the footnotes on juries to find his sources.

Best,

McVey


18 posted on 03/19/2006 10:32:29 AM PST by mcvey
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Now that's interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, but I never heard of anyone checking into such a thing.


19 posted on 03/19/2006 10:45:33 AM PST by mcvey
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I've been called 4 times, but never served - I never make the cut. Seems I have this "problem" with crime and punishment - you do the crime, I like to do the punishment!


20 posted on 03/19/2006 10:53:16 AM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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