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Ports Deal Will Sink Bush
America Talks ^ | 02/26/06 | David Zublick

Posted on 02/26/2006 1:56:17 PM PST by AmericaTalks

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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

HA! I hadn't seen that pic. :)

TRUUUUUUUUST BUSH!!!


21 posted on 02/26/2006 5:32:53 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Flux Capacitor
Screw off. I don't care what you consider blasphemous any more than I care what the Muslims do.

Why don't you go over to DU and stay stuck on stupid with the rest of those intolerant clowns.

Is your book called: HOW TO NOT WIN FRIENDS NOR INFLUENCE ANYONE?

22 posted on 02/26/2006 5:55:12 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Sad thing is, this might be a smart idea and actually leave us safer, if in fact they are true allies
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There are no true allies. No one can be totally trusted in all situations. Not even Britain. The economics of this deal are intriguing. It makes Muslims capitalists in a larger sense than ever before.
This deal is tied to a way of circumventing Muslim prohibitions against interest and getting some big time activity for the UAE stock market, which needs support. This play could drive an economic wedge between radical islamists and moselms with a more secular attitude. We need to entice the moderate muslims to embrace the market system, and this is one vehicle to accomplish that end. Its a subtle move and an interesting possibility. No matter who operates the ports we have to be vigilant and retain police and military sovereignty over all our borders.
23 posted on 02/26/2006 6:14:34 PM PST by photodawg
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To: sirchtruth

Such anger, sirchtruth. That's not very Christian of you. :)

-Dan

24 posted on 02/26/2006 6:16:45 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Flux Capacitor

Interesting comment from one who's so ignorant
as to disrespect others beliefs...;)


25 posted on 02/26/2006 6:32:54 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: All

FYI, Guess What?

Saudi Shipping Company “Controls” 9 US Ports

http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/meet-the-national-shipping-company-of-saudi-arabia/

Funny, Corzine didn't have a problem with it re: Jersey.


26 posted on 02/26/2006 6:41:05 PM PST by AliVeritas (Vlad Crusade Crew... Radicals please come to NY to protest. Will travel, have bond.)
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To: af_vet_rr
...to the point of threatening to use his first veto.

If past is prologue, then that's an empty threat.

27 posted on 02/26/2006 8:46:11 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: AmericaTalks

Where's the cheese? This whine is a little on the thin side.


28 posted on 02/27/2006 4:55:50 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: AmericaTalks
The GW at Jebel Ali

Mina Jebel Ali
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
24°59'N 55°03'E
Jebel Ali is part of the city of Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. The United Arab Emirates is a federation of seven emirates or states. Dubai [Dubayy] is the main commercial center of the Persian Gulf. Its' port of Mina Jebel Ali has the largest man-made harbor in the world with 67 berths and extensive dry-dock capability.

Jebel Ali has become a favorite port of Navy ships in the Gulf, and is the most frequented port outside of the United States. This port has become a familiar stop for carrier battle groups while deployed to the Arabian Gulf.

Jebel Ali, located near Dubai, is the UAE surface hub logistics site in the NAVCENT AOR. It is served by container ships from Guam and other Pacific ports. Jebel Ali is connected to Fujairah by road and much air cargo is delivered by truck to ships inport at Jebel Ali. CLF ships often accept the cargo for ships that are underway FFT at sea. The Fujairah to Jebel Ali land link is the Navy’s logistics pipeline to the Gulf should the Strait of Hormuz be closed. Jebel Ali is manned by a PO1 who reports to the OIC in Fujairah. He operates a transhipment point and temp-storage warehouse with a Ready Service Store (RSS) at Jebel Ali with assistance from the on-station AFS and personnel from the CV (when in theater).

The Kasbah Liberty Center, swimming pools, and laundry located at the port of Jebel Ali are the primary elements of the Jebel Ali Recreation Center and are operated under the management of the United Services Organization (USO) and oversight of the Navy Personnel Command Morale, Welfare, and Recreation Division (PERS-65). By mutual agreement PERS-65 has purchased or authorized payment for specific goods and services for the use of Armed Forces personnel assigned or deployed to the Persian Gulf. The USO Director is the designated agent who manages those US Navy resources located at the port of Jebel Ali.

For many Sailors, the chance to pick up bargains on gold jewelry, electronics and computer hardware drove them into Dubai, known in tourism circles as the "City of Gold" for it’s hundreds of elaborate gold shops and some of the best jewelry prices in the world.

The port of Jebel Ali is situated 35km SW of the city of Dubai. The position of the Port Control Tower is 24°59'04"N and 55°02'09"E. Pilotage is compulsory and pilots are available 24 hours a day. The outer basin is 2.3km long and 600m wide with a depth of 14m. The inner basin is 3.7km long and 425m wide with a depth of 11.5m. The main axis of both basins is 047°-227°. All channel, basin and dock bottoms are sandstone.

In 1976 Sheikh Rashid gave instructions for an ambitious project, the construction of the world's largest man-made harbor at Jebel Ali. When completed in 1979, Jebel Ali Port ranked alongside the Great Wall of China and the Hoover Dam as the only three man-made objects that can be seen from space. Although complementing Port Rashid in terms of trade and transshipments, the concept of Jebel Ali was geared more towards industrial development and soon attracted major aluminum, gas and cement projects. Establishing the surrounding Jebel Ali Free Zone made the location a magnet for international businesses looking for the best facilities, cheaper overheads and the freedom to operate with an offshore status.

Dual-purpose berths for LPG and other tankers berth 1,5,7 are situated in the outer basin and at Berth 2 in the 14m basin. Ships using these berths, for which a booking system operates, will generally be berthed starboard side to. Star Energy Oil Terminal is situated on Quay 3 with Berths 8 and 9 for tankers (max draft, 13.25m) importing/exporting petroleum products. A chemical tanker berth is located on Quay 7, Berth 51, with water depth being 11.5m. Vessels (max draft, 10.75m) may berth port or starboard side to. No ballast reception facilities are provided at these berths. In all other berths, ships can secure port or starboard to. Relative density of water in the port is 1.032; water temperatures reach 36°C in summer.

29 posted on 02/27/2006 6:35:11 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: AmericaTalks
Clinton's special treatment of the Chinese government's shipping company, COSCO, didn't hurt him or Hillary (yet).

Aside from that, Clinton was able to convince folks that it was in "our national interest" for him to guarantee a loan for a Chinese nuclear plant that supplied power for building their war ships.

30 posted on 02/27/2006 10:43:36 AM PST by syriacus (Hillary says: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
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To: AliVeritas
Funny, Corzine didn't have a problem with it re: Jersey.

I haven't heard Corzine object to the direct rail shipments to the East Coast from Chinese-managed shipping terminals on our West Coast either.

I guess that putting the containers on flat cars automatically changes their contents.

31 posted on 02/27/2006 10:46:48 AM PST by syriacus (Hillary says: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
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To: SwordofTruth
Bush is not running for anything so he can't be sunk, but it will sink the Republicans if they back him on this.

I'm beginning to think my congressman, Peter King, is an idiot if he wasn't aware some weeks back that the British company P&O was going to be bought by either 1) an Asian government-run company (PSA) or 2) a UAE government-run company (DPW).

How could someone who chairs a Homeland Security committee be so ignorant of a big business deal like this?

Is King pretending he was in the dark about this?

32 posted on 02/27/2006 10:52:54 AM PST by syriacus (Hillary says: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
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To: AmericaTalks

Just like Iran-Contra sank Reagan.


33 posted on 02/27/2006 10:54:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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