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To: Hoplite

If he were out for blood, why did he not attempt to take Sarajevo? Why did he not try and take Tuzla, the HQ of muslim fanaticism in BiH? If he were out for blood, there was ample of oppty to do so. Why did he not hold onto Gorazde and "wipe out" the muslim terrorists that were holding that towns citizenry hostage?


6 posted on 02/17/2006 5:32:44 AM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell

Hoplite's strawmen are starting to come apart.


11 posted on 02/17/2006 7:28:01 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: ma bell
Why didn't Mladic succeed in ethnically cleansing the entirety of Bosnia?

Becauase the troops under his command turned out to be nothing more than casualty averse cowards, better suited for engaging in combat operations against unarmed persons than opponents who were comparably armed to themselves. When confronted by a determined opponent, they either dug in and started shelling civilians, as was the case at Sarajevo, or, if the enemy brought the fight to them and negated the Serb's armor and artillery superiority, they turned tails and ran like little girls - which is exactly what happened in 1995 when the Croats took back the Krajina and drove on through up to the approaches to Banja Luka.

And before you or anybody else gets too stupid in regards to parroting this BS about the BSA coming down with a case of altruism and allowing the Srebrenica column to escape, consider the following from Dragan Obrenovic, DCO of the Zvornik Brigade, which relates to events of July 15th, 1995:

I went to my office and spoke to Vasic. We spoke about the column and the Muslim prisoners. Vasic suggested that a corridor be opened in the lines to let the column through to avoid casualties and relieve the threat the column posed on the security of Zvornik as well as the rear of our front lines. Special Police Commander Ljubomir Borovcanin and Special Police officer Milos Stupar arrived and joined the meeting. We continued discussions with regard to the column. I felt I needed higher authority to open such a corridor and attempted to reach the Commander of the Drina Corps.

I telephoned the Drina Corps and was put through to the Duty Officer there. I asked for the Commander and was told that Pandurevic had already left for Zvornik. There were no other officers at the Corps who could help me so I ended the call.

Unable to speak to a Commander at Drina Corps, I then telephoned the Main Staff and spoke to General Miletic. At that stage I thought he was the operations officer, but I now know that he was standing in for the Chief of Staff of the Main Staff. I told Miletic of the column’s size and location and suggested that the lines be opened up to let it pass through. Miletic did not approve of this and said that I should use all military hardware possible to stop and destroy the column as I had been ordered to do. General Miletic told me that the column should be destroyed. He further complained to me about using an insecure line and hung up. I therefore did not have an opportunity to discuss the matter properly with him. From my knowledge of the column and the situation on the ground, I knew it was impossible to destroy the column as Miletic had suggested.

Vasic then said jokingly that the army was stupid and that he was going to call the Ministry of Interior. Vasic then placed a telephone call to Pale on the speakerphone. He spoke to an advisor to the Minister of Interior. He explained the situation to this advisor and asked permission to allow the column to pass. The advisor said that he should find the army and alert the airforce and kill them all. We did not have the capability to use air power and it was clear to all of us that our superiors did not comprehend fully what was going on the ground with regard to the column. Thinking aloud, I then asked myself where General Zivanovic could be. Borovcanin responded that Zivanovic was no longer the Corps Commander, and that General Krstic was now the Drina Corps Commander. I then tried to get hold of General Krstic. I was able to get hold of the communications officer Major Milenko Jevdevic, who in turn connected me to General Krstic.

Source: Statement of Facts as set out by Dragan Obrenovic

Thus, the only "corridor" opened in relation to the Srebrenica column was the one opened unilaterally by Colonel Pandurevic on the 16th of July, contrary to orders, and only after the column had overrun the rear of the Zvornik Brigade's 4th Infantry Battalion's positions around Nezuk/Baljkovica and linked up with BiH units which had assaulted the 4th Bn's front in order to meet the column.

Once the armed portion of the column had passed through, the Serbs closed the corridor and recommenced hunting down parts of the column which were still in areas under their control. Had the 4th Battalion not had to detach manpower to take part in the executions of those already captured, it might have held its lines.

But, alas, that's typical of the Serbs as of late - they'd rather kill unarmed folks than run their wars in a competent, honorable manner, and they'd rather lie about their incompetency and dishonor than deal with either, which is why Ratko Mladic is still at liberty today, no prosecution for war crimes has been mounted by Belgrade against any ranking member of its armed forces of police, and FR's threads are still polluted by this Serbian revisionist garbage.

14 posted on 02/17/2006 1:33:13 PM PST by Hoplite
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