Posted on 01/27/2006 5:22:52 PM PST by bondserv
Ping!
Hey...anyone know anything about this?
Actually Creation Scientists were way ahead of the curve on this one. These conclusions look more like pre-designed characteristics that only express when the environment dictates.
A. E. Wilder-Smith did some extensive research in this area. He got the idea when thinking about callouses. A recessive trait that is coded to only express when the environment dictates. He did some other experiments along these lines.
One included a male frog species that had a rubbery pad on it's front feet. The pad enabled the frog to grasp the slimy female in order to reproduce. When he forced the environment to be dryer the pads no longer expressed for the males.
He decided to experiment with other species who lived in dryer climates. The male frogs, when forced into a swampy environment expressed the same rubbery pads on their front feet.
His conclusion is that scientists don't know enough about genetics to make competent claims. It all makes more sense from a design perspective and with the current momentum will be viewed in that light by more scientists as time progresses.
YEC SPOTREP
Thanks for the pings! I'm not familiar with the new theory mentioned above, but I'll try to come up to speed.
What happened to the other thread that was in the smokey back room? I didn't see anything that warranted it being pulled?
When one's only guide is internal, the propensity for ad hoc modifications is increased. The biblical texts make a reasonable starting point and a fine anchor. The best science takes place when order and design are assumed from the get go. The biblical texts do not originate within the observer but come from the outside, stating in general terms where this creation came from and why. Positive statements, wherever they originate, are not neutral. They are objects for human intellect to apprehend, evaluate, and then either accept or reject.
Lo and behold, not only do we have a text from the outside that positively asserts intelligent design, but we also have data to fit the scientific model of intelligent design very well, for science must deal with intelligible phenomena. Only some kind of internal darkness would attempt to explain intelligent design away. That idea is not at all supported from the outside, except perhaps in some remote corner of the universe where there is no intelligible matter or process.
The only answer proponents of non-intelligent non-design can proffer against a reliance upon the external biblical texts is scorn and ridicule, as often demonstrated in these threads. "What do the words of a bunch of goat herders have to do with science?" In truth, the scientific model (or shaping principle) of intelligent design is not only plausible but also perfectly legal in any academic context, even if it results in religious implications.
Materialistic naturalism has little or nothing to offer empirically or philosophically, especially in view of all its ad hoc modifications. It is a pottage best left for those who are full of themselves.
That is the worst description of calluses I have ever seen. I think it's just flat wrong.
That was a fast and loose summary by me. He described the process using all of the technical terms. You will have to hear his explanation to properly comment.
He differentiated the callus and the frog pad. Calluses are coded to express and recess during the lifetime. If I remember correctly the Frog pad was more like Finch beaks in that new generations expressed the latent genetic information. Just like the Finch beaks the Frog pads fluctuated on and off depending on environment.
His main point is scientists are properly clueless considering the wealth of information they have not considered. And that what we do know contradicts all conventional theories in one way or another.
IMO this is where the new blood of Creation Science will come in. :-)
The guy's just baffling you with BS and he's working too hard.
I didn't think anyone was using bad behavior; certainly not bad enough to have it pulled.
If people can't handle the passionate arguments of others, they need to go somewhere else.
I was also surprised that the posts on my 'ping' list were deleted. First time that has happened when a thread was pulled.
ludicrous
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