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To: DX10
["A look at Ruben's full paper, in contrast with the creationist's quote from it, shows that Ruben's paper did not primarily concern when the avian-style lungs might have developed (or how), it covered when *endothermy* might have arisen."]

So, clear it up for me. Are you saying that the dinosaurs were the ancestors of birds, or not?

Yes, they were.

Or are you saying that the general theory of organic evolution is in such a state of flux that we just can't keep up with it?

No, I'm not saying that, and I don't know how anyone could have presumed that I was saying any such thing.

182 posted on 01/28/2006 3:41:02 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

Just back from the tennis court.

Since you assert that birds ancestors were dinosaurs then I fail to understand how my previous comment could have been described as a straw man. To your second comment, I thought you had suggested that the author of the piece offered was just not keeping up with the current state of science, hence my reply about the theory being in a fast moving state of flux.

I am beginning to get the drift. Both of us have our prejudices founded on our understanding of origins. I subscribe to teological priciples and that causes me to search for a designer. I find the most acceptable authority revealing that designer to be the Bible. In it I read the account of creation, the alienation of mankind from his Creator, and the plan of reconciliation with the Creator. It is a book of books recorded by over fortytwo writers spanning a period of over sixteen hundred years and develops a consistent theme. It has stood the test of time remaining unchanged for the past two thousnd years while so called science has tried unsuccessfully to impune it.

On the other hand you subscribe to the theory of abiogenesis for origins and from that beginning you construct a complete developmental theory ex any first cause. There is no authority for your beliefs except what you can produce inductively. Since it is a naturalistic explanation of organic development, then in this political environment, you own the government schools. (As I remember the Prussian government schools in the thirties turned out little Nazis. Our government schools turn out ignorant little robots that think government is good. Then I have to hire them and teach them how read, write, and add and subtract.)

In my world view you have the opportunity to lay hold on eternal life if you have the courage to do so. What commends your world view? It offers nothing except to appeal to personal pride and six feet of dirt.

So, instead of your continual boasting and back slapping, why don't you and your fellow travelers give the Bible a fair chance instead of looking at it with a view to pick it apart and critize? If you choose to do so, don't pay any attention to the guys with their collar on backward.

I am only interested in your well being. Regards.


184 posted on 01/28/2006 5:14:51 PM PST by DX10
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