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To: Syncretic; PatrickHenry
[There is no connection between Marxism and Darwin's theory.]

No connection?

That's right. Which word was unclear?

Can you say materialism?

Sure, but saying it doesn't help you case any.

<>I> They are both materialistic worldviews that assuume that matter and energy is all there is.

Utter nonsense. Evolutionary biology "assuumes [sic]" no such thing. Try learning some science before you attempt to critique it. Evolutionary biology is no more a "materialistic" a "worldview" than say auto repair, meteorology, or glassblowing.

Nor is communism "a materialistic worldview" -- it's an economic system. It can be practiced by religious zealots as easily as by atheists. Nor, as I described in an earlier post, is it in any way predicated upon a presumption of the non-existence of God. Marx saw religions as dividing the loyalties of the people under communism, and thus disruptive of his "system", but the same can be said for many other non-religious things as well. Communism is not *founded* on a presumption of "materialism", nor dependent up on it.

Darwinists are now trying to grapple with the idea that creation also contains, in addition to matter and energy, information in the form of DNA sequences.

ROFL!!! Wow, this is the most empty-headed thing I've read all week, and that's really saying something.

I hate to be the one to break this to you, but information exists just fine even if "matter and energy" is all there is, because information resides in *configurations* of matter and energy. Or were you under the impression that little tiny magical elves carried your computer data across the internet, instead of patterns of electrons (WHICH ARE MATTER)? Are magical fairies responsible for the information stored on your hard drive? Or is it actually oriented particles of magnetic films (MADE OF MATTER)? Etc. etc.

"Darwinists" have no problem with this knowledge, don't "grapple" with it, and have understood it just fine for decades, unlike, say, yourself -- you seem pretty confused about it, and are "grappling" with simple concepts like how information exists in "matter and energy". You seem to be "grappling" with the notion that it somehow is carried on "crystal auras" or "fairy dust" or some other non-material substrate... Excuse me while I roll my eyes.

As for the information in DNA, a vast amount is known about it, because it's been studied for many decades by tens of thousands of researchers (at least, probably more), and there has been a huge flood of knowledge gained from it -- all supporting evolution, by the way. But you wouldn't know any of that, since you obviously haven't bothered to crack open a science journal before spouting off on topics you don't understand.

But the existence of a spirit world is strictly and dogmatically ruled out.

No it isn't -- this is yet one more thing you grossly misunderstand.

116 posted on 01/27/2006 1:46:19 PM PST by Ichneumon
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