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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You say, "Darwin WASN'T a like-minded thinker" and yet here is the quote from Marx himself on Darwin's work:

"Although it is developed in the crude English style, this is a book which contains the BASIS of natural history for our views." Karl Marx

You can opine all day about his motives but those are the words of Marx himself speaking of the connection between Marxism and Evolution.

You will go on to deny that there are no links even though people on this forum have pointed them out including the ideas behind the theories.

I find the quote fascinating. Marx considereed his theories an evolution in the world of capital which paralleled evolutionary theories in the natural world, thus the accolades for Darwin, a like-minded thinker.

107 posted on 01/27/2006 1:28:18 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
"You say, "Darwin WASN'T a like-minded thinker" "

He wasn't. They had almost nothing in common intellectually speaking.

"Marx considereed his theories an evolution in the world of capital which paralleled evolutionary theories in the natural world, thus the accolades for Darwin, a like-minded thinker."

Darwin was a free-market, antislavery whig.


Now, if you are not going to provide any specifics as to HOW Darwin influenced Marx 11 years before Darwin even published, or in what way Marx changed his ideas because he read Darwin, then don't ping me again. Your evasions are annoying.
114 posted on 01/27/2006 1:37:18 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Siena Dreaming; CarolinaGuitarman
You can opine all day about his motives but those are the words of Marx himself speaking of the connection between Marxism and Evolution.

And what "connection" would that be, specifically? Come on, out with it. Tell us how Marx's statement actually holds water, and isn't just cheap rhetorical rationalization. We'll wait.

If NOW's founder had claimed that the Bible "contains the BASIS of natural history for our views" on abortion, would you beat Christians over the head with it until the end of time, or would you examine the claim to see whether it was cheap posturing which was full of crap first?

I'm one up on you here -- I *know* how Marx "explained" that statement. You don't. And I understand that his claiming evolution as the "basis" for his "natural history" is such a far reach as to be non-existent.

But hey, *you* know better than the rest of us, and you "know" that evolution and communism go hand-in-hand, right?

Spare me from the ignorant...

even though people on this forum have pointed them out including the ideas behind the theories.

Horse manure. Whining incorrectly about how they have "materialism" in common is hardly the same as actually making the case you describe.

I find the quote fascinating.

People are always fascinated by things they don't understand.

Marx considereed his theories an evolution in the world of capital which paralleled evolutionary theories in the natural world, thus the accolades for Darwin, a like-minded thinker.

No, he didn't, but thanks for sharing your false presumptions with us.

117 posted on 01/27/2006 1:53:59 PM PST by Ichneumon
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