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Vatican's Evolutionists
marianland.com ^ | 01/20/2006 | Rafael Brom

Posted on 01/21/2006 7:53:08 PM PST by Marianland

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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
"The Pope is absolutely right.... evolution is true, as is Genesis, read correctly (i.e., as poetry)."

Another genius makes his mark on FR. No Pope has ever said that evolution is true. The only two Popes to make statements on evolution were Pius XII and JPII. Pius XII said that Catholics may study both sides of the evolution debate, but in the same Encyclical he denounced evolution as being a doctrinal antagonist and expressed his belief that the theory would soon enough fall on its face.

Pope JPII read a letter which was written by the head (scientist) of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. He allegedly read a line from that letter that stated: "evolution is more than just a theory";
and on this one sentence spoken privately to scientists the non-Catholic world makes the reprehensible allegation that the Catholic Church backs Charles Darwin. The Church does NOT back Darwin's evolution, and the charge is just another typical slander by ignorant or biggoted non-Catholics.

Catholic scholars explaining this statement have said that by the time the French translation appeared in the English speaking secular media they had butchered the Pope's actual statement, which was probably more like: "there is more than one theory of evolution". But in any case, the Holy Father was merely giving his own personal thoughts on the subject, as was NOT declaring it to be Catholic belief. In fact, when he read that statement it was addressed directly to scientists of the Ponfifical Acedemy, and had nothing whatsoever to do with official Catholic teaching.

The Catholic teaching of Papal infallibility is not what most non-Catholics, (and even many Catholics), think it is. This 'infallibility' is strictly limited to matters of salvation, (faith and morals), hence it is extremely narrow in scope. Any Pope can speak or treat of any subject whatsover that is not involved with doctrinal beliefs, and when he does so he does it strictly as a private doctor. The ignorance out there by non-Catholics is astounding sometimes.

21 posted on 01/21/2006 8:44:41 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: brainstem223
"Yes he finally spoke out against homosexuals in the priesthood, after 50 yrs of homosexual molestation of boys and hundreds of millions paid in damages. The estimates are that the priesthood is 1/3 homosexual as opposed to the 5% homos in the population; having 1 out of 3 priests gay is knowingly ordaining homosexuals."

May God forgive me, but you are truly a moron. Your "estimates" are pulled right out of your @rse.

22 posted on 01/21/2006 8:46:30 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: TheCrusader
The Catholic Church decided what books went into the Bible, not vice-versa. This 'haphazard' understanding of the Bible in the Catholic Church has an entire 2,000 years of historical explanation, as well as a Teaching Magisterium of which the Bible must be understood through.

So Catholics say! There are very good reasons Catholic and Protestant Bibles are different.
23 posted on 01/21/2006 9:20:52 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Marianland
"Charles Darwin's Fraudulent Communist Religion ""

You excepted this crap to hawk your site? Blessed are the stupid, for they will be given foam blocks to play with.

24 posted on 01/21/2006 9:26:31 PM PST by spunkets
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"having 1 out of 3 priests gay is knowingly ordaining homosexuals"

In a sense, yes -- you know that some of the priests you ordain will be gay. That doesn't mean you know which ones are which. As for Cardinal Law and all those guys, though, that's obviously unconscionable.


25 posted on 01/21/2006 9:45:01 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: non-anonymous

Still, with a Vatican Cardinal 200 years hence supporting it on 01/20/2206, it seems the Catkolic Church acceptance of evolution is pretty long standing.


26 posted on 01/22/2006 3:16:40 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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27 posted on 01/22/2006 3:26:49 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to lie - joebucks)
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To: TheCrusader
Not pulled out of my arse:

http://atheism.about.com/od/catholicismandgays/a/gaypriests_2.htm

And from: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/07102005/325/gay-men-catholic-priests-celibate-paper.html

In his book "The Changing Face of the Priesthood," Father Donald Cozzens estimated that some 40 percent of U.S. priests are gay but only a tiny minority are practising homosexuals.

One source says "25% or greater" another is 40%; that averages to one out of three. Pulled out of my arse indeed! (no pun intended)
28 posted on 01/22/2006 10:21:56 AM PST by brainstem223
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To: TheCrusader

Lets not forget that traditionally Catholic Church was defending politically correct sciences.
Maybe Catholic Church should be more focused on their spiritual responsibilities.


29 posted on 10/01/2006 10:35:03 PM PDT by Marianland
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To: beaver fever

Lets not forget that traditionally Catholic Church was defending politically correct sciences.
Maybe Catholic Church should be more focused on their spiritual responsibilities.


30 posted on 10/01/2006 10:35:51 PM PDT by Marianland
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To: TheCrusader

Lets not forget that traditionally Catholic Church was defending politically correct sciences.
Maybe Catholic Church should be more focused on their spiritual responsibilities.


31 posted on 10/01/2006 10:36:10 PM PDT by Marianland
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To: orionblamblam

Lets not forget that traditionally Catholic Church was defending politically correct sciences.
Maybe Catholic Church should be more focused on their spiritual responsibilities.


32 posted on 10/01/2006 10:37:22 PM PDT by Marianland
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To: Strategerist

Lets not forget that traditionally Catholic Church was defending politically correct sciences.
Maybe Catholic Church should be more focused on their spiritual responsibilities.


33 posted on 10/01/2006 10:37:48 PM PDT by Marianland
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To: The Cuban

Lets not forget that traditionally Catholic Church was defending politically correct sciences.
Maybe Catholic Church should be more focused on their spiritual responsibilities.


34 posted on 10/01/2006 10:38:16 PM PDT by Marianland
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