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To: MineralMan; smoothsailing; Admin Moderator; All
This is a little disturbing. [...] Second hand reports from unconfirmed blog postings do not make news. I think we should avoid jumping on this until it's verified.

   

MineralMan, while you are awaiting "verification", perhaps you would like to mull over the below described incident [found in more detail at Post No.41 on this thread] ... and, perhaps, "verify" Senator Rockefeller's proclivities by analysing his actions as described by words that came out of his own mouth.

"I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq — that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11."

So spoke Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) on “Fox Sunday ”on November 14, 2005, who at the time of his trip was chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and is now its vice chairman.

 

Could this be a case of ... where there's smoke ... there's fire? Where national security is concerned, we cannot be too careful ... even with a senator named Rockefeller.

52 posted on 01/09/2006 12:50:56 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid

"MineralMan, while you are awaiting "verification", perhaps you would like to mull over the below described incident [found in more detail at Post No.41 on this thread] ... and, perhaps, "verify" Senator Rockefeller's proclivities by analysing his actions as described by words that came out of his own mouth."

I saw that. I'm in no way defending Rockefeller. However, this was a blog with no confirmation, in the blogger's own words. It is not news. Apparently the mods agreed with me on this one.

When it's news, and there's confirmation, it'll make a great story. Until then, it's just another rumor.


56 posted on 01/09/2006 12:55:45 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: caryatid
RockefellerÂ’s Treachery
The Fifth Column/Joan Swirsky

November 29, 2005 - "I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq — that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11."

So spoke Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) on “Fox Sunday” on November 14, 2005, who at the time of his trip was chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and is now its vice chairman.

Please read the first paragraph once again, digest it (if your stomach can handle it), and consider its immense – if not treasonous – implications.

By himself and fully armed with America’s most sensitive intelligence, Sen. Rockefeller decided to go to three Arab countries – including Syria which is on the State Department’s list of terrorist regimes and a close ally of Saddam Hussein – and literally alert them to what (“in my view”) might befall a neighboring Arab state.

This was Sen. RockefellerÂ’s judgment only four months after September 11th and a full year before President Bush had expressed any intention to go to war!

By its very nature, Sen. Rockefeller’s solo trip, his lofty rank on one of the senate’s most prestigious and sensitive committees, and most important his words were no doubt received for what they were – a clarion heads-up!

There is no doubt that even before he departed the palaces of his hosts, high officials from terrorist Syria, fair-weather-friend Saudi Arabia (that Sen. Rockefeller, with his Standard Oil inheritance, may feel very akin to), and even “moderate” Jordan, were telegraphing the president’s intentions to the Butcher of Baghdad: “Get ready! And whatever you have in the way of WMD, whatever can implicate us, get rid of them!”

What followed Sen. RockefellerÂ’s treachery was the lengthy and painstaking road to war and the prelude to ways that he and other leftists have tried to sabotage the president, compromise National Security and undermine our troops.

As author William J. Bennett has aptly asked: “What was Senator Rockefeller doing? What was he thinking? How about an investigation …into what exactly [he] told Syria and just what Syria might have done with the information…before it was made available to the U.N., the Senate, or the American people? Sen. Rockefeller may have seriously harmed, impeded, and hindered our war efforts, our troops, and the entire operation in the Middle East. This should be investigated immediately; and perhaps Senator Rockefeller should step down from the Intelligence Committee until an investigation is complete.”

What Happened Next – 2002

▪ January: the same month Sen. Rockefeller decided to give our enemies a heads-up, President Bush, in his State of the Union address, called Iraq part of the “axis of evil,” saying that the United States “will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons.”

▪ June: the president spoke at West Point, telling his audience that a policy of preemption was necessary in the war on terror, i.e., we have to get them before they get us – again!

▪ September: the president addressed the United Nations and challenged that terrorist-embracing body to enforce its own 17 resolutions against Iraq, which it had never done in the past.

▪ October: Congress overwhelmingly authorized an attack on Iraq (Senate 77-23; House 296-133). In fact, Sen. Rockefeller said that the threat from Iraq was "imminent," an adjective the president never used.

▪ November: the U.N. Security Council unanimously approved resolution 1441 that imposed “tough” new arms inspections on Iraq and, the same month, U.N. weapons inspectors returned to Iraq for the first time in almost four years.

For all of this time, Security Council member France (among other obstructionists) strenuously resisted going to war against Iraq, significantly failing to acknowledge that they were deeply implicated in the Oil-for-Food scandal in which they took billions in SaddamÂ’s bribes. Thank you, Senator Rockefeller!

A full year elapsed and, with it, the grim first anniversary of the 3,000 innocent people who were murdered by Islamic terrorists on September 11th – also, a full year in which Iraq had both the means and opportunity to rid itself of its weapons of mass destruction. Thank you Senator Rockefeller!

COMPLETE ARTICLE HERE

73 posted on 01/09/2006 1:19:44 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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