[Beagle8U]

What I would like to see are the real figures on crimes that were most often committed by unarmed felons, against unarmed citizens, before and after CCW laws were passed.

Car-jackings fit that bill quite well in my opinion, and the stats wouldn't be muddled by crimes of passion, gang related crap, etc.

Car-jackings were all the rage 10-15 years ago and most often it was thugs yanking an unarmed person out of their car at a red light, and the criminals themselves weren't armed, just bigger/stronger.

I know for a fact that car-jackings in Detroit dropped like a stone after Mi. passed its "must issue law", but you'll never see the MSM or the police chiefs putting the before/after stats out there for all to see.

Do that study and compile the stats, and we can stuff them up the anti-gunners a$$.

[celejrm313]

when will these anti-gun dems get it--the criminals with guns don't care about "legislation".

[backhoe]

I certainly agree- the stats we see bandied about are not telling the whole story. We all know how the Brady Bunch has stretched the definition of "children," and I recall from a post on Small Dead Animals the crime rate comparisons between the US and Canada are hard to factor because their "homicide rate" is based on convictions, whereas ours includes deaths by police action and other broader measures.

Carjackings probably are a better indicator- also "Hot Burglaries," because even the dumbest burglar knows that if a person has only one weapon, it's almost certainly in the house with them.

[arthurus]

Carjackings in Florida just about ended for local folks but skyrocketed for rental cars in South Florida because foreign tourists drove most of them and they were obvioiusly not armed. The license tags were then changed so that rental status is not visible on the tag and that stopped, too. That was the year Florida almost lost its foreign tourist trade.

[marktwain]

I believe that John Lott has done the studies, and has been vilified in the MSM for it.