Posted on 12/10/2005 6:28:19 AM PST by TennMountains
Edited on 12/11/2005 12:54:13 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Yeah, but we also watch each other's backs, don't we? The poster implied the CMSgt didn't know what he was talking about and that he was a trouble maker and thus had man run ins with the southern law. To say the least, that chapped my a$$.
This cop deserved to be shot for creeeping around someone's infant daughter's bedroom at night.
I bet the drug warriors are real proud of this one.
Wow! I've been 'assigned' a political point of view! And by someone- no less- who has the power to do so without actually reading the thread!
From my posts to this thread:
#16
More homework is required to know for sure- but if the facts are as presented in the article, then this is just plain wrong.
#124
Based on the account and the information I've seen at this point- there is room for doubt. But there may be a lot more to this story -I suspect- than we're getting at this point.
#184
Based on what we *think* we know about this case at this point- and the information is admittedly thin- it sounds more like a tragedy than a crime.
#187
But all we have is this guy's blog at this point. Time will tell.
#265
At this point- I am interested in hearing what the other side has to say. Can't say for sure, but the blogger has indicated that he is going to be acquiring the trial transcripts. I am wondering what is in them.
Yup, sounds like, after repeatedly hedging with the observation that we only have this one point source of information, of unknown quality and without having the other side of it, I must be a screaming pro-dope big 'L' Libertarian, who takes this as 'gospel'.
Yup, you outed me. I'm really Ayn Rand.
(yea and I'm the pope)
Thanks for playing- better luck next time, Your Holiness.
Assuming that there actually were any run ins.
"The anarchist is the scum of the intellectual world of the left, which has given them up. So the right picks up another leftist discard. That’s the Libertarian movement." --Ayn Rand
I knew it.
I've read nothing anywhere, (other than speculation on this thread), that would indicate the officer was outside the house when shot. Indeed, the exact opposite is true. Every report either says or indicates that the officer was forceably inside the bedroom when shot. Obviously this would be a MAJOR factor to any determination.
I personally am at a loss to imagine anything that MIGHT have been inside that would justify the forceable entry and resulting death of this young officer. This officer should not have died. Even if there was a "druggie" inside intend on killing an officer in his daughter's bedroom. The "druggie" should not have had the opportunity take such a shot. I'm left with the conclusion that whoever trained this officer and/or supervised this raid should be fired. This case should be publicized and studied by the police as an example of what NOT to do.
No quotes, naturally.
Actually there have been several different quotes, incuding my quote of the prosecutor above. I also posted a newspaper article but it was deleted because of Gannett copyright issues. TheAgitator blog has several quotes that seem to clearly state the officer was forcibly inside the residence. I would appreciate it if you can find something I've overlooked. But, given the prosecutor's comment, I'd be very surprised if the this wasn't a forceable entry.
Apparently it matters to you whether of not the officer was forcibly inside. Even if he were, that didn't give Maye the right to knowingly kill a police officer.
That's a good anectdote. There are SWAT raids that work and are valid.
But I don't see that it has much relevance to the Maye debate.
Not under all circumstances it isn't. If the trespasser is trying to break into your house, use of deadly force is lawful, at least in Texas. But I guess that then removes the "simple trespassing" criteria
§ 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON.
(a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31;
(2) if a reasonable person in the actor's situation would not have retreated; and
(3) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect himself against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
(b) The requirement imposed by Subsection (a)(2) does not apply to an actor who uses force against a person who is at the time of the use of force committing an offense of unlawful entry in the habitation of the actor.
From Chapter 9, Texas Penal Code.
I don't know what the laws are in Mississippi, but I wouldn't expect the laws in Mississippi to be signifigantly less enlightened in this regard. Certainly the laws on use of deadly force vary greatly from state to state, with those in the South being generally more protective of individual defense, and less protective of aggressors.
I couldn't care less what you believe or don't believe.
??? You are the one who implied that there were.
What druggies? The only thing introduced as evidence of a drug connection was the finding of traces of marijuana and cocaine. I suspect that virtually any rental property, or even property previously owned by someone other than the current owner, will have traces of those. Heck most of the money in circulation has traces of drugs on it.
AGAIK, No one was charged with, nor convicted of any drug offenses in this incident.
This one?
"The officer who killed was at the front door initially and then went around the back to the back door before entry was made. ... "
Implied?
The informant The warrants. The irrational behavior of the convicted murderer.
about the facts.
You replied:
What does that say about you?
I'll let the readers judge for themselves what that implies.
Criminal? Jerk? Fabricator? Take your choice.
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