Iraq GOP Showdown Aftermath Links

Memeorandum and Others ^ | 11-19-2005 | Aliveritas

[AliVeritas]

Here's some of the feedback after the House GOP showdown. The MSM is spinning it full speed as the opposite instead of a vote for all representatives to stand on what they believed.

The question was "Do you put yourself on record as wanting immediate withdrawal of our troops?". After years of political anti-war statements by democrats, we saw they were spineless to vote their convictions... so it's spun as a republican stunt instead of the chance for democrats to vote what they truly believe.

[MNJohnnie]

Who cares how the Dinosaur spin. It totally ripped the guts out of the Anti War Movement. It is what the Senate should of done on Tuesday.

[paudio]

The Dems said the Republicans introduced the bill with intention to be turned down, so it's only a political stunt. Why didn't the Dems introduce their own bill, then?

[SevenMinusOne]

Who cares how the Dinosaur spin. It totally ripped the guts out of the Anti War Movement. It is what the Senate should of done on Tuesday.

Exactly right -

[randog]

The question was "Do you put yourself on record as wanting immediate withdrawal of our troops?".

No matter how the MSM spins it, it's a very simple question that everyone in America, pro- and anti-war can understand without the experts "explaining" it to them. The vote tally is even easier to understand--the far left now knows that their champions in Congress are just stroking them. They can spin it 50 ways to Sunday, but they know deep down inside that no one's pushing their agenda.

[speed_addiction]

According to the Democrats, the war is based on nothing Bush's lies. Last night they voted to not bring the troops home but instead have them continue dying for a lie. How the hell can they spin that?


What We Are About To Do Here Is What The Good Lord Would Call A Cleansing of the Wicked. I Call It A Good Old Fashioned Texas Ass Kicking.

[AliVeritas]

Will update with more links MSM House Rejects Iraq Pullout After GOP Forces a Vote Democrats Enraged By Personal Attack http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802896.html Uproar in House as Parties Clash on Iraq Pullout http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/19/national/19military.html?ex=1290056400&en=47510823655ad779&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss House GOP Seeks Quick Veto of Iraq Pullout http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051118/D8DV6FDO4.html Murtha’s Moment (Hey it's Newsweek)poll to freep http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10101981/site/newsweek/ Republicans to Test Call for Quick Pullout From Iraq (Update2) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a6g8rxoQVYyc Iraq withdrawal handily defeated http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/18/congress.iraq.ap/index.html “G.O.P. Tries to Split Democrats With Vote on Iraq War” http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/18/politics/18cnd-mili.html?hp&ex=1132376400&en=521ea30b567c07c3&ei=5094&partner=homepage Blogs Friends, Romans, Clowns http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012316.php 403 to 3. The "Sound and Fury, Signifying Nothing" Democrats. (Good) http://hughhewitt.com/archives/2005/11/13-week/index.php#000572 Unserious (Kudlow's Money Politics) http://lkmp.blogspot.com/2005/11/unserious.html WaPo's Murtha Coverage Is Like The Cindy Sheehan Whitewash http://newsbusters.org/node/2883 "The Swift-Boating Of Jack Murtha"? http://www.discriminations.us/storage/003534.html The politics of the situation http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=2958 House votes 403-3 to continue the mission in Iraq http://www.centristcoalition.com/blog/archives/002678.html Lawmakers Reject Immediate Iraq Withdrawal http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/18/D8DVAQ6O3.html YOU WON -- NOW WHAT? http://instapundit.com/archives/026931.php Bush the Uniter: 403 to 3 Against Withdrawing Troops http://ace.mu.nu/archives/134363.php Iraq Withdrawal Vote — Tonight in the House (Liveblog) http://www.noendbutvictory.com/?p=39 The Murtha Plan For Iraq http://wizbangblog.com/archives/007615.php Liberals Clobbered Tonight! http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/949 This Just In!! http://cakerdeath.blogspot.com/2005/11/this-just-in.html House Repubs Force Vote on Iraq War (Liveblog record) http://euphoria.jarkolicious.com/journal/2005/11/18/1310/ Democrats: How Dare You Make Us Vote! http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/006005.html What Could Be More American Than A Vote? http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005812.php The 'Cut and Run' Prescription for Iraq (Good) http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/all_things_beautiful/2005/11/the_cut_and_run.html Ok Big Mouths, Vote On An Iraq Pull-Out http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2005_11_13.PHP#004784 Just Shut Up and Vote (Juan Cole's take) http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=6108 We were for the war before we were against the war before we were for the war http://dontgointothelight.com/2005/11/we_were_for_the_war_before_we.php Vote On War http://superfunpowerhour.blogspot.com/2005/11/vote-on-war.html With All Due Respect... http://wizbangblog.com/archives/007620.php Pride: Pushback is a ... http://thesins.blogspot.com/2005/11/pride-pushback-is.html Surrender, Hell: Neo-Copperhead's Embarrass A Hero http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/134335.php Backed into a corner of their own construction http://vikingpundit.blogspot.com/2005/11/backed-into-corner-of-their-own.html New Iraq Pullout Vote Thread – Sample Floor Debate Statements – Strategy (Good with more links) http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=11294 It's time to clarify the debate http://www.theshapeofdays.com/2005/11/its_time_to_cla.html 403 to 3. Stay the Course. Support our Troops. Support Iraq. http://www.radiobs.net/thebluestateconservatives/archives/2005/11/showdown_on_cap.html

[AliVeritas]

Zot Protocol

[AliVeritas]

Will update with more links

MSM House Rejects Iraq Pullout After GOP Forces a Vote Democrats Enraged By Personal Attack http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802896.html

Uproar in House as Parties Clash on Iraq Pullout http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/19/national/19military.html?ex=1290056400&en=47510823655ad779&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

[AliVeritas]

House GOP Seeks Quick Veto of Iraq Pullout http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051118/D8DV6FDO4.html

Murtha’s Moment (Hey it's Newsweek)poll to freep http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10101981/site/newsweek/

Republicans to Test Call for Quick Pullout From Iraq (Update2) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a6g8rxoQVYyc

[AliVeritas]

Iraq withdrawal handily defeated http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/18/congress.iraq.ap/index.html “G.O.P. Tries to Split Democrats With Vote on Iraq War” http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/18/politics/18cnd-mili.html?hp&ex=1132376400&en=521ea30b567c07c3&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[AliVeritas]

Blogs

Friends, Romans, Clowns http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012316.php 403 to 3.

The "Sound and Fury, Signifying Nothing" Democrats. (Good) http://hughhewitt.com/archives/2005/11/13-week/index.php#000572

Unserious (Kudlow's Money Politics) http://lkmp.blogspot.com/2005/11/unserious.html

WaPo's Murtha Coverage Is Like The Cindy Sheehan Whitewash http://newsbusters.org/node/2883

"The Swift-Boating Of Jack Murtha"? http://www.discriminations.us/storage/003534.html

The politics of the situation http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=2958

[AliVeritas]

Blogs

House votes 403-3 to continue the mission in Iraq http://www.centristcoalition.com/blog/archives/002678.html

Lawmakers Reject Immediate Iraq Withdrawal http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/18/D8DVAQ6O3.html

YOU WON -- NOW WHAT? http://instapundit.com/archives/026931.php

Bush the Uniter: 403 to 3 Against Withdrawing Troops http://ace.mu.nu/archives/134363.php

Iraq Withdrawal Vote — Tonight in the House (Liveblog) http://www.noendbutvictory.com/?p=39

[AliVeritas]

Blogs

The Murtha Plan For Iraq http://wizbangblog.com/archives/007615.php

Liberals Clobbered Tonight! http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/949 This Just In!! http://cakerdeath.blogspot.com/2005/11/this-just-in.html

House Repubs Force Vote on Iraq War (Liveblog record) http://euphoria.jarkolicious.com/journal/2005/11/18/1310/

[AliVeritas]

Blogs

Democrats: How Dare You Make Us Vote! http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/006005.html What

Could Be More American Than A Vote? http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005812.php

The 'Cut and Run' Prescription for Iraq (Good) http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/all_things_beautiful/2005/11/the_cut_and_run.html

Ok Big Mouths, Vote On An Iraq Pull-Out http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2005_11_13.PHP#004784

Just Shut Up and Vote (Juan Cole's take) http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=6108

We were for the war before we were against the war before we were for the war http://dontgointothelight.com/2005/11/we_were_for_the_war_before_we.php

Vote On War http://superfunpowerhour.blogspot.com/2005/11/vote-on-war.html

With All Due Respect... http://wizbangblog.com/archives/007620.php Pride: Pushback is a ... http://thesins.blogspot.com/2005/11/pride-pushback-is.html

[AliVeritas]

Blogs

Surrender, Hell: Neo-Copperhead's Embarrass A Hero http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/134335.php

Backed into a corner of their own construction http://vikingpundit.blogspot.com/2005/11/backed-into-corner-of-their-own.html

New Iraq Pullout Vote Thread – Sample Floor Debate Statements – Strategy (Good with more links) http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=11294

It's time to clarify the debate http://www.theshapeofdays.com/2005/11/its_time_to_cla.html

[AliVeritas]

403 to 3. Stay the Course. Support our Troops. Support Iraq. http://www.radiobs.net/thebluestateconservatives/archives/2005/11/showdown_on_cap.html

[AliVeritas]

WSJ's Taranto takes on the NYSun's hype on Murtha and gives background:
Still Flaky
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/

[AliVeritas]

Glenn Reynolds had a post yesterday on Murtha’s background of support for the war (Must Read):
http://instapundit.com/archives/026925.php

[AliVeritas]

Abandoning the War - Robert Kagan & William Kristol, Weekly Standard
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/372sueqv.asp

The Iraq War is Not Another Vietnam - Part I - Richard Miniter, RealClearPolitics
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-11_18_05_RMR.html

Call them what they are -- TRAITORS
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/markalexander/2005/11/19/176204.html

War & Reconstruction
For Bush’s critics, even hindsight is cloudy.
(Victor Davis Hanson, Excellent)
http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson111805.html