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To: ml/nj
"First of all, you’d be hard pressed to find a useful debate about Darwinism and Intelligent Design"

“First of all", it’s called evolution, not “Darwinism”. That’s like calling ID “Creationism”.

Second, there’s no point in debating a 100% faith based ideology. A faith can not be disproved. ID's only hope of evidentiary support its to disprove every alternative, and it has had no success in disproving the scientific theory of evolution nor the evidence supporting it.

Both are fine to teach in public school. But ID belongs in social studies, not along side evolution in science.

4 posted on 11/13/2005 7:07:01 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
“First of all", it’s called evolution, not “Darwinism”. That’s like calling ID “Creationism”.

I think you are wrong. The thing that people nowadays call evolution is Darwinism or neo-Darwinism. All share natural selection as the driving force which produced the variety of life forms we observe today.

ML/NJ

5 posted on 11/13/2005 7:16:17 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: elfman2
A faith can not be disproved.

This is a silly notion.

I believe that G-d gave the Torah to Moses, and Moses gave the Torah to the nation of Israel. This is an article of faith that Jews repeat every time (well almost) the Torah is read publicly.

Is it really true that this cannot be disproved?

Couldn't evidence turn up somewhere in a sort of anti-Josephus tome that depicts the entire history of the near-east in a completely different fashion; and then some more evidence that shows that the Torah was created sometime around the time of Jesus; or maybe by Jesus himself; and then maybe more evidence that forces most reasonable people to conclude that Moses is a fiction? I don't expect any of this to happen. Maybe that's faith. But there is some reason mixed in with it all.

ML/NJ

6 posted on 11/13/2005 7:29:09 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: elfman2

Why is the burden of proof solely on ID? Why the double standard?


20 posted on 12/28/2005 3:30:35 AM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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