Posted on 11/07/2005 11:04:55 AM PST by strategofr
The violent riots spreading across France took several worrying directions Sunday night, Nov. 6, and Monday. The mostly Muslim gangs of youths began surging out of the immigrant suburbs to invade town centers; they fired their first gunshots at policemen; the number of torched cars peaked to 1,400; and disturbing new slogans were hurled, depicting Paris as ”Baghdad-on-the Seine” and their campaign as the start of Europe’s Ramadan Intifada.
A single slogan made a mockery of president Jacques Chirac’s efforts of the last three years to distance France from President George W. Bush’s Iraq war. Furthermore, the French government’s helplessness in quelling the trouble is encouraging other European communities to follow suit - in Denmark, Belgium, Spain and Sweden, for starters.
Chirac, after lying low for 10 days, finally called an emergency security meeting in Paris Sunday, Nov. 6. He then promised arrests, trials and punishment for those who “sow violence or terror” across France. But politics as usual held him back from instituting tough measures or naming those responsible for the violence, let alone deploying the necessary forces. French police are still under orders not to open fire unless fired on first. No names have been released of ringleaders despite several hundred arrests.
Saturday, Nov. 5, as the disorders went into their second week, the French prosecutor-general Yves Bot said he had detected an organized hand and a strategy behind the riots. Witnesses reported vehicles without number-plates distributing petrol bombs. A fuel bomb factory was in fact discovered Sunday in Paris with 150 bottles and gallons of gasoline ready to distribute to the bands of arsonists. Also found there were masks to hide rioters’ faces. In Clichy-sour-Bois, where the accidental electrocution of two teenagers in flight from the police ignited the first protests, residents said: This is just the beginning.
There are plenty of indications that the riots are not simply spontaneous outbursts of frustration by disadvantaged youths of North and black African descent, but centrally organized mayhem, an “intifada” activated by Muslim networking.
The Chirac-de Villepan government, trying to live down interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy’s provocative pledge to deal with what he called “scum,” is not acknowledging this. Because they refuse to recognize the rampage for what it is, they are withholding the forces required to restore order and so letting the danger get out of hand. Police, firemen and paramedics are no match for a fast developing civil war. The army will have to be brought in at some point, preferably sooner rather than later. For a start, marksmen need to be posted to pinpoint the ringleaders and the bottle-bomb wielders targeting cars, schools, shops, warehouses and public buildings.
France’s leaders, like the British and Dutch, are clinging to the hope that sympathetic dialogue with moderate Muslims will calm the street, despite all the evidence that radical, activist Muslims do not heed established Islamic authorities. On Nov. 6, the Union of Islamic Organizations in France, UOIF, issued a fatwa forbidding Muslims to seek “divine grace” by blindly attacking private and public property and urging meditation and calm.
The following night, bands of marauding Muslim youths extended their areas of attack from outlying city districts to urban centers and started shooting at police officers.
The controlling hand, far from being legitimate Muslim authority, is beginning to emerge as the very organization that has for several years been recruiting young fighters in French Muslim ghettos fight al Qaeda’s wars against the West in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Iraq and other sectors.
On February 20, 2004, DEBKA-Net-Weekly and DEBKAfile were first to reveal the extent of al Qaeda’s penetration of West Europe. They turned up French intelligence statistics which estimated that “al Qaeda had recruited in France between 35,000 and 45,000 fighters and was organizing them in military-style units. They meet regularly for training in the use of weapons and explosives, combat tactics and indoctrination and are controlled from local and district command centers under the organization’s national French command.”
“In Germany, Al Qaeda’s numbers are estimated at 25,000 to 30,000 men.”
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Today, French counter-terror sources are willing to admit, albeit on the quiet and not for attribution, that those clandestine terrorist cells may well be at the bottom of the current riots. They note the history of the Palestinian uprising, which kicked off in 1987 with stones and petrol bombs, only to evolve into a suicidal terrorist war by the late nineties. They fear this process may be beginning - not just in France but in the rest of Europe too, that the covert nucleus of trained and indoctrinated Islamic terrorists al Qaeda buried inside Europe is being turned against the continent, starting in France.
"France’s leaders, like the British and Dutch, are clinging to the hope that sympathetic dialogue with moderate Muslims will calm the street,"
How about the creation of special "Muslim enclaves" where followers of the Islamic faith can be guaranteed that the brutal French police would not impinge in any way on their pursuit of an Islamic lifestyle.
Very shrewd indeed. Sounds as if the French are beginning to get a leg up on these guys, eh. LMAO!!!
Clouseau-esque indeed!
The L.A. riots of 1992 ended when the marauding criminals came up against Koreans with rifles on top of their buildings.
And the guns were not loaded with meringue.
Yves Bot, a cousin of Bush Bot?
At this rate, perhaps talks of retreat on the parts of the French people are the next step.
Muslim Youth Riot in Paris
Rioting Muslim youths are engaged in a spate of violence in Paris. Shots were fired at police and fire crews as they battled youths who torched car dealerships, public buses and a school. So far, more than 300 vehicles have been destroyed.
Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the troubled Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris said he is at a loss on what to do next. "Our police have been employing our basic policy of strategic capitulation, but it doesn't seem to be having the same salubrious effects it has in the past," said Cordet. "In 1940, strategic capitulation quickly led to peace between France and Germany. These Muslim ruffians do not play by civilized rules."
France's government has been working overtime composing an apology to the Muslim community. "Our hope is that by cravenly abasing ourselves we will be spared further harm," said Louis Louis III, spokesman for the French Ministry of Apology. "We are also considering offers of delectable pastries as an inducement for rioters to reduce the arson to more moderate levels."
more at http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
Sounds like my work. If a problem comes up, call a meeting. And while the meeting is taking place, the problem is being taken care of by the guys who weren't invited. Two weeks later, the boss that called the meeting gets an award. Happens every time.
So the explosion of the Arab street, predicited in response to Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon etc...finally happened. But it happened in Paris because they refuse to actually fight back.
What amazes me most is that there are some people who are amazed this happened.
And no matter what happens this time we sit it out and let them settle it themselves for once.
And the guns were not loaded with meringue.
Yeah, but see, that's the problem. In France the guns are loaded with meringue. Either that or Brie. ; )
Sniper teams in Baghdad have been hitting the terrorists so bad their heads are spinning. Sounds like somebody is learning something.
I just hope and pray that no Koran was harmed in the making of this Islamic production of arson, looting, destruction and murder.
That would be bad.
"Shrewd."
LOL!
Apparently the French have no rooftops.
"In France the guns are loaded with meringue."
LOL! line reminds me of Yellow Submarine. Which is come to think of it, not a bad theme song for France.
We may have our own issues soon. Don't think for two seconds that the predominantly muslim areas in this nation don't have their weapons cocked and ready to go. You couldn't pay me enough to live within 100-miles of a predominantly muslim area in the States right now. Kind of like living in New Orleans, just for different reasons. It's only a matter of time regardless of what happens.
"I wonder what will be discussed.... "
How to properly use white wine sauces. (Powerpoint presentation)
How to be offensive yet polite. (Roundtable)
Breakout sessions: Cheese tasting
Crouton Tales
Poodle clipping fantasies
I'm just having an agument on another board, with an American living in France who is basically and apologists for these riots because its been perpetrated by teenagers. He actually doesn't think they are aware of the consequences of their actions.
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