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CBS Jumps On The “Fitzgerald is a Good Guy” Bandwagon
NewsBusters ^ | 10/26/05 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 10/30/2005 10:38:01 AM PST by Only Waxing

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To: Only Waxing

pit bull with lockjaw.”

That means he's a dead dog.


41 posted on 10/30/2005 11:36:03 AM PST by moog
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To: JohnnyZ

We executed Timothy McVeigh. We treated the threat of jihad in America as an isolated case and the attack of "two" lone nuts as the tip of a rabid right wing effort to tear down the American government.

Misplaced focus.

I suggest you not call me "deranged" or other names in the forum.


42 posted on 10/30/2005 11:36:59 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: JohnnyZ
Fitzgerald IS a good guy. He was a conservative hero before he started investigating the Bush admin and some people turned on him for their own reasons.

Agreed. No one in DC is saying Fitzerald is a witch hunter for the left. I think some here at FR would attack a grade school teacher as a liberal spawn of Satan for giving Bush a D decades ago.

43 posted on 10/30/2005 11:39:27 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Only Waxing
"Fitz the Hack" IMO went on a mission to nowhere and had to find something to keep his career going.

This investigation should have closed up in weeks after discovering no laws could have already been broken the way the law was laid out.

I think the prosecutor has a real desire to find something beyond what was there.

Plame who sent her own husband out on a mission without a confidentiality agreement was not covert.
When Wilson came back and lied in his report and then went to the press with it for the Democrats, that should have launched an internal investigation by the CIA IMO.
The current administration most certainly has the right to go after liars to prove they are wrong.
Who says and administration is to do nothing?
44 posted on 10/30/2005 11:42:49 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: carenot

It was a rhetorical question but that is my understanding.

This entry doesn't even approach discussion as to "why" there was an effort to bug DNC offices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate

It leaves it open to readers to infer that they wanted inside strategy on the campaign.


45 posted on 10/30/2005 11:44:09 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: JohnnyZ

When I read Libby's indictment, and saw that in the information Fitzpatrick included the phrase "sixteen words" referring to Bush's State of the Union speech, it was clear that he was taking a partisan side.


46 posted on 10/30/2005 11:44:36 AM PST by TravisBickle (The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
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To: A CA Guy
Plame who sent her own husband out on a mission without a confidentiality agreement was not covert.

When Wilson came back and lied in his report and then went to the press with it for the Democrats, that should have launched an internal investigation by the CIA IMO.

Plame worked for the CIA (I hope I am not violating any national secrets here). I doubt she was the only such employee in "the firm". Internal investigations can be shelved or left to be inconclusive.

While Time wants the focus now to be on "why we went to war", we must first get the answers "why was Joe Wilson selected" and "who received bribes from Saddam's corrupt Oil For Food program".

The critics of the Bush administration are tainted in so many ways. Let's let the public know for once and for all about the Communist money behind A.N.S.W.E.R. and Cindy Sheehan. Let's expose Michael Moore's and others' support for the "insurgents" while claiming they "support" our troops.

A stand is being made. Let's let the left implode for once and for all. They lie. They cheat. They steal. And under socialist dicators, the murder with immunity from world criticism.

47 posted on 10/30/2005 11:49:50 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: weegee
We agree.


FDR slammed 100,00 Japanese/Germans/Italians into the camps simply because of their Heritage.

I never understood the "repression" of the dreaded McCarthy Era when at the same time in the USSR, communists were slamming ANYONE who MIGHT have said something "counterrevolutionary"

McCarthy didn't put a single person in jail.

And McCarthy's "victims" got a hearing.

Victims of Soviets system would be sent to gulags just on the word of some disgruntled neighbor.

And there were no appeals.


Guess which tragedy Hollywood made the most movies from/



Right.




McCarthy wasn't paranoid. He was prescient.
48 posted on 10/30/2005 12:07:38 PM PST by RedMonqey (Life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
>> Fitzgerald IS a good guy. He was a conservative hero before he started investigating the Bush admin and some people turned on him for their own reasons. Agreed. No one in DC is saying Fitzgerald is a witch hunter for the left. I think some here at FR would attack a grade school teacher as a liberal spawn of Satan for giving Bush a D decades ago. <<

Thank you. This "Patrick Fitzgerald is a evil liberal hack" stuff is idiotic in light of the fact he was choose by Bush on the recommendation of former U.S. Senator PETER Fitzgerald, a very conservative Republican from Illinois.

Another thread is trying to prove that Fitzgerald is "partisan" because he went after 50 henchmen in the George Ryan administration but "only two" RATs in the Daley administration. By my count, that means he went after 52 LIBERAL officials in Illinois.

Saying Fitzgerald is "partisan" because he went after scumbag RINO George Ryan would be like calling someone a looney Democrat if they indicted two Howard Dean campaign workers and a boatload of "Republican" Jim Jeffords staffers.

49 posted on 10/30/2005 12:15:28 PM PST by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP... www.nolahood.com)
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To: weegee

We executed Timothy McVeigh. We treated the threat of jihad in America as an isolated case and the attack of "two" lone nuts as the tip of a rabid right wing effort to tear down the American government.

Misplaced focus.

Nice summation....

50 posted on 10/30/2005 12:16:45 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: Candor7
>> Fitzgarulous has prosecuted 60 Republicans and only 2 democrats in his career. Of course he is fair and non - partisan. <<

Fitzgerald has prosecuted 62 LIBERALS here in Illinois. Perhaps you should meet some of the poor "Republicans" you think were unfairly prosecuted by Patrick Fitzgerald.

51 posted on 10/30/2005 12:17:12 PM PST by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP... www.nolahood.com)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Fitzgerald had to come up with something or there would have been claims of a white wash. This is probably a weak case which will be hard to make before a jury. Before the the defense attorneys get through investigating all the connections between Russert, Cooper, Miller, NBC, Time, the NYTimes and the DNC, the MSM will wish this will all just go away.

Fitzgerald has done an excellent job in Illinois despite the fact that he has indicted more Republicans than Democrats (so far). George Ryan and his administration gave him plenty of material to work with. As far as the Democrats are concerned, he has been concentrating more on flipping people at City Hall because he has one main target (Richie Daley). If he get him, he will bring down the house. He is also starting to put the the heat on Governor Blago who has now been around long enought to have his own trail of corruption.


52 posted on 10/30/2005 12:17:17 PM PST by Friend of the Friendless
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To: weegee
per Arthur Miller's, The Crucible, which PRE-DATED McCarthy

"The Crucible" was 1953. McCarthy had been rolling for a few years by then.

53 posted on 10/30/2005 12:17:36 PM PST by Free as the breeze
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To: Free as the breeze

Sen. McCarthy's "list" pre-dates the play but the play predates his involvement in the hearings.

http://www.17thc.us/docs/fact-fiction.shtml

Please note: The play premiered before anti-Communist Senator Joseph McCarthy's actual participation started on Feb. 3, 1953. The House Committee on Unamerican Activities (HCUA), however, began their inquiries earlier than McCarthy's participataion. Elia Kazan's testimony before it -- which is assumed to have influenced Miller -- was on April 12th, 1952. Do not write to me asking about any specifics of the events in the 1950s: that's not my area of expertise.


54 posted on 10/30/2005 12:31:03 PM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: freedomdefender

Ken Starr got a lot more indictments AND convictions on a lot more people in a shorter period of time. I'm not saying Fitz is a partisan hack, but I think his indictments of Libby are dubious at best. One or all of the charges against Libby may stick, but I doubt it. Fitz needed an indictment just to justify his time and money spent on this case - and to avoid being crucified by the Left.


55 posted on 10/30/2005 12:41:58 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: RedMonqey
Ann Coulter has asked for the names of people who's lives who were ruined by Sen. McCarthy for being unjustly called communists by him.

Today there are people in America who are unapologetic at calling themselves Communists. I find them to be as wrong in their goals for this country as those calling themselves Neo-nazis. In the 1940s and 1950s, there were efforts by the Soviet Union to impact public opinion and policy in the United States.

"Uncle Joe" Stalin killed many times more people than Adolph Hitler did yet communists like Red Asner still feel safe in asking "what else he did besides killing a bunch a people."

The left's position seems to be that the Cold War was "all" because the US was a superpower with the nuclear bomb trying to expand the empire. Spies giving it to the Soviets was a "good thing" in their eyes. Reagan causing the Evil Empire to go bankrupt in an arms race was considered a "bad thing". The Berlin Wall came down and citizens were permitted to leave freely.

Now we have apologists saying that Iraq was better for Iraqis with Saddam in charge.

We are told how poorly our students are served by science texts that hope we will "one day" put a man on the moon. If the history texts our children read do not address the information that came to light from the KGB files after the fall of the Soviet Union, then they are being taught from outdated texts as well.

56 posted on 10/30/2005 12:44:42 PM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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"In a six-hour speech on the Senate floor on 1950-02-20, McCarthy raised the issue of some eighty individuals who had worked in the State Department, or wartime agencies such as the Office of War Information (OWI) and the Board of Economic Warfare (BEW)."

1950 is three years before 1953.

McCarthy predates The Crucible by three years.

57 posted on 10/30/2005 12:45:52 PM PST by Free as the breeze
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To: weegee

** PLAME **
{To the tune of 'Fame'}

Media, look at me
And publish what you see.
They ain't seen the best you have yet
With enough time, they'll find someone to arrest.
I've got a story, and you should push it, see
We can catch Bush - here is the plan:
Let them know who I am.

[Chorus]
Remember my name (Plame!)
We'll keep this goin' forever
You just continue to lie (Lie!)
I feel it coming together
People will start wond'ring why (Plame!)
I'm gonna make it to prime-time
Nothing'll ever be the same (Plame!)
We'll keep this goin' forever
America, remember my name

(Remember, Remember, Remember, Remember
Remember, Remember, Remember, Remember)

MSM, hold on tight
And you can break the Right.
You can take this straight to the top
Give it print, and take all I got.
Let's make the going rough,
Too much is not enough.
This will hurt them in the '08 race-
I know you got what it takes.

[repeat Chorus]


58 posted on 10/30/2005 12:49:44 PM PST by mikrofon (Mean Slime Media)
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To: weegee

I agree with you - Act I of this episodic saga is still missing pages. Who sent Wilson, why, and why was there no confidentiality agreement? Was he another bag man for Food for Oil?

Want a very Rovian scenario sure to drive the Left crazy and have DU trolls explode?

We've now heard that Libby helped Marc Rich get pardoned by Clinton, yet stayed in the WH after Clinton. The prosecutor who did not want Rich pardoned was, yes, this Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald might be settling old scores here.

Remember the weird comments of Miller about having some sort of CIA clearance? Did she get that from Plame?

Here is a wild conspiracy play: Trying to hang the Bush Admin., could Libby - with MSM connections - have been helping Wilson and got caught in the middle of laying his own trap?

Stranger things have happened in DC.


59 posted on 10/30/2005 12:53:23 PM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: wolf24
but instead an observation of his behavior that I find to be perplexing in light of the original purpose of the investigation.

Poker players hold onto the hole card until the time is ripe.

A knife used incorrectly, can cut the wielder.

Fitzgerald is prosecuting the case per law. Law is a funny thing.

If this goes right, watch for the 'enemy' to trip and fall onto it's own sword.

60 posted on 10/30/2005 12:56:28 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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