Posted on 10/05/2005 7:17:51 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
I don't believe that Gonzales was ever in the running. There is no way Bush wanted to create an additional nomination fight. Bush doesn't play the "FU" game. I believe he's more interested in keeping his promise to appoint strict constructionists. He's held to this promise with his appeals court nominees and with Roberts. How you think he suddenly went off the reservation is beyond me.
Nice to see that you managed to stay a member here for 6 weeks before you showed your true DU stripes.
Can you say "sleeper" agent. lol
OTOH, many Republicans will vote for her simply to support the President. Nothing unusual there either. Very likely Miers will be confirmed and probably turn out to be a decent Justice.
All that said, I also agree the idea advanced here and elsewhere to "just trust the President" is short-sighted. It misses a central tenet that the Democrats in the Senate have abused minority power for YEARS, and Republican voters have worked for years to give the President a sufficient majority to confirm whomever he nominates. That the President did not nominate someone who might be more controversial sends the signal that he either believes the Senate Democrats will filibuster or that the "Gang of Seven" RINOs will follow through with their threat to side with the Democrats should the Constitutional Option be invoked.
Furthermore, the President is allowing the Democrats, should yet another vacancy arise, to claim how "reasonable" they were in confirming Miers and/or Roberts as an excuse for invoking "extraordinary circumstances" with respect to the filibuster should a more controversial candidate - or merely one less liberal than the Justice he will replace - be nominated.
The problem many conservatives are having with Miers is not her track record or lack thereof, it is the impression the President is leaving that the Democrats have cowed him into nominating a somewhat unknown quantity rather than a well-known but potentially more contentious one.
Got it.
With all the Federal Judges appointed by President Bush, can you name any bad choices? hhhhmmmmmm?
That seems to be the split within the conservative movement. Some want to always take the high road and "do the right thing". Others want to get as down and dirty as our opposition. The latter would be more desirable if the MSM did not act like hometown referees for Democrats. I only wish that the conservative opponents of Miers would structure their argument without using the cliche "We know nothing about her", or forgetting that many conservatives believe it's the Presidents call. It leaves us too vulnerable to ridicule from the left. We should never have to transcend to their tactics.
"With all the Federal Judges appointed by President Bush, can you name any bad choices? hhhhmmmmmm?"
Of the ones I've observed, no.
How many of these choices have had such weak support by members of his own party?
And just how much do these other conservatives know about Miers? They don't know much at all which makes them unqualified to be offering their assumptions as fact.
This is most definitely, at this point, a "trust me" nomination. Given the president's track record - other than not going to the mat for Estrada - I can say he's kept his commitment to conservatives. I would have preferred someone else too. However, Bush is not an openly adversarial "in your face" type guy - to the consternation of many here. He's a poker player who the other side continuously underestimates. (You see, he's stupid, just like the media tells us. /sarc) To believe otherwise is to think, like these other conservatives you mention, that he has suddenly left the reservation. Not likely.
Invite a stranger into your house to criticize your home, marriage, parenting and values... I think you'll realize why it's relevant.
"Invite a stranger into your house to criticize your home, marriage, parenting and values... I think you'll realize why it's relevant."
So how is a public forum analogous to your private home?
How long is someone required to be here before they can disagree with the President or the RNC talking points?
Are you a moderator? If not, then it's not your job to police what can be said here.
Oh fercryingoutloud relax...
How well you know someone, how long they've been a member, tends to have relevance to how much attention to give their views... not always, some of the old farts are the most obnoxious.... but often.... So :~P - It was just an observation.
People are really tired of vanities on this subject, and any subject for which there are dozens of active threads you could have voiced your opinion on.
Vanity posts saying "Everyone look at what I just thought up" are frowned upon and I like that. While some FReeper-written essays and editorials are good stand alone threads, if you want to see how a forum looks when everyone gets to post their own thread to make a minor point, look at DU.
Posting only articles and not new threads for each new thought is better. Fewer, more involved threads means the resulting conversation back and forth is a lot deeper and more complete than a few drive-by comments. That's my observation of the comparison between the two.
I dont base my judegements on the reactions of others. Its popular to have a pack mentality today, I dont buy into it.
Yes, I can look at Bush's record on Judicial appointments and compare it to his critics record. I can trust Bush's record, see NOTHING that gives me any reason to trust in the "Dump Miers" critic's record.
Meaningless any way. Guess you missed the 90-9 Senate vote on Terrorist Protection Amendment slid into this year's Defense Appropriation. Wars for the SC is over boys and girls. The Senators have all ready surrendered.
>>>Yeah, and that's why he refuses to nominate judges such as Janice Rogers Brown to the federal bench. Wait a minute, he did.<<<
So what? It will be for naught if Meirs becomes another so-called "moderate" voter who sides with the left to override many if not all of the the good rulings of Brown and other conservative lower court judges.
WOW! I just heard on the radio that Meirs withdrew! Thank God!
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