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Why Harriet Meirs should NOT be confirmed
StandardDeviation

Posted on 10/05/2005 7:17:51 AM PDT by StandardDeviation

I've thought about it for the past couple of days, and here is why I think Ms. Meirs should NOT be confirmed. I'll take this from the stand of both Democrats and Republicans.

Democrats cannot vote for Meirs because above all things, she is a Bush crony. She could be a legacy of the Bush Administration that would haunt you for years. She thinks that W is one of the most intelligent men on Earth. Bush/Cheney will likely have her ear even after they have left the White House. A vote for her is a vote for the continued influence of the Bush Administration well past the end of his second term.

Republicans cannot vote for Meirs because she is an unknown. She was very likely picked as a big FU to your Senate leadership when they warned Bush against picking his other friend, Alberto Gonzales. You've been presented a once in a generation chance to replace a swing voter with a true conservative, but you have no solid reason to know that she will be. You might end up getting another swing voter to replace the one that is leaving the court. Sure, Bush says she shares his philosophy of strict constructionism, but given Bush's record, can you honestly say that is a philosophy that HE truly beleives in?


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To: StandardDeviation
What do you expect on the Personal boards. I gave my PERSONAL opinion. Duh!

Have you read the posting requirements?

21 posted on 10/05/2005 7:52:21 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: RacerF150
"Another DNC talking point......."

Do you marginalize everything you don't agree with this way?

Both the President and a Senate get a say regarding who is on the SCOTUS, not just the President.

The difference is that the Dems feel that a super-majority should be required when the Constitution states no such requirement.
22 posted on 10/05/2005 7:53:45 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: StandardDeviation
Two whole days of thinking and this is your analysis.... well what about your following post...

Harriet Myers and Abortion: a Few Clues ^

Posted by StandardDeviation to pkajj
On General/Chat ^ 10/03/2005 10:58:50 AM CDT · 22 of 24 ^

I have a question for the people who are already up in arms over this pick.

Are you really disappointed because Bush didn't nominate someone who you KNOW will get the Dems to set off a filibuster?

It seems like some Republicans have been itching for a reprisal of that showdown ever since a vacancy opened up on the Court.

Personally, I'll trust Bush on his picks. I was pretty happy with Roberts, so I have no reason to be unhappy with Meirs hat this time.

I haven't heard much about her other than conflicting information on her stance regarding abortion, and that isn't a really big issue for me anyways.


23 posted on 10/05/2005 8:06:33 AM PDT by deport (Miers = Souter....... A red herring which they know but can't help themselves from using)
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To: The_Victor

Yes I did. posting should be limited to "news and information".

It's an opinion post, the information contained here is what one person (me, the author) thinks about a given topic in the news.

No where does is the term "information" qualified in any way.

"Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."

Yet some people are walking a fine line with this one in their responses.


24 posted on 10/05/2005 8:06:59 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: deport

"Two whole days of thinking and this is your analysis.... well what about your following post..."

Right. Apparently when I said "at this time". Others thought my opinion was set in stone.


25 posted on 10/05/2005 8:08:48 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: StandardDeviation

"The MAYBE is what is wrong with this picture. There were candidates whom we KNOW would be not just OK, but great. They weren't picked. "

And how do we KNOW that the other picks would be great?

Oh yeah-- because Harriet Miers picked them out for President Bush!

No one seems to be willing to acknowledge that the 'awesome alternatives' are primarily the result of Miers decisionmaking.

This makes her an obviously strong choice.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 8:13:05 AM PDT by lonestar67
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To: StandardDeviation

Apparently when I said "at this time".



Yep, apparently you shoot from the hip without any info to defend your positions.... Happens often around here.

You have a good one, ya hear.


27 posted on 10/05/2005 8:13:59 AM PDT by deport (Miers = Souter....... A red herring which they know but can't help themselves from using)
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To: StandardDeviation
Perhaps you missed this part. http://www.freerepublic.com/help.htm#articles
Do keep "vanity" posts to a minimum - Free Republic is primarily a place to discuss news, articles, and editorials. Vanity posts, creations of the poster him or herself, should meet a high standard of quality before one is even considered worthy of posting. Often a relevant current thread or general announcement, catch-all thread is a much better choice for a brief question or comment.

Given that this is probably the 10,000th Meirs vanity, I think you fell short of the standard.

28 posted on 10/05/2005 8:14:40 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: deport
"Yep, apparently you shoot from the hip without any info to defend your positions.... Happens often around here."

Info has come out for and against her. I've weighed the information so far and arrived at my opinion.

Just because Ms. Meirs helped vet the candidates, doesn't mean she is necessarily qualified to be one. Ever have to interview someone to become your boss? I have. Doesn't mean I'd be able to do his job.
29 posted on 10/05/2005 8:17:53 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: StandardDeviation

The interview for your boss is a bad analogy.

As chief counsel she had primary control over legal vetting for these supreme court nominees. In other words, if you like the list of alternatives, then you like the underlying philosophy of the person who created the list-- Miers.


30 posted on 10/05/2005 8:21:42 AM PDT by lonestar67
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To: StandardDeviation

For all the Constitutional conservatives, there is no reason why the President's nominee should not be approved. None.

Lots of gnashing of teeth over nothing.


31 posted on 10/05/2005 8:24:40 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: The_Victor
Never read that part. Why would I go to the "Do keep "vanity" posts to a minimum - Free Republic is primarily a place to discuss news, articles, and editorials. Vanity posts, creations of the poster him or herself, should meet a high standard of quality before one is even considered worthy of posting. Often a relevant current thread or general announcement, catch-all thread is a much better choice for a brief question or comment." "Help" page when I've posted on many forums before? I know how to hit the Post button.

I'll put in a suggestion that this information be made part of the registration agreement. Thanks for the information.

In the end the only people who get to decide what meets the standard are the moderators. They have the power to pull threads.
32 posted on 10/05/2005 8:27:37 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: RockinRight
I will say that all of W's other court appointees have been solid. So MAYBE Miers will be OK.

Sorry, but that must be on the talking points they sent out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496939/posts
Not another Clifton

33 posted on 10/05/2005 8:28:56 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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To: lonestar67
"As chief counsel she had primary control over legal vetting for these supreme court nominees. In other words, if you like the list of alternatives, then you like the underlying philosophy of the person who created the list-- Miers."

If she was told to pick candidates that adhere to HER philosophy that is true. If she was told to pick candidates that adhere to the PRESIDENT'S philosophy it is only true if you believe that their philosophy is the same AND you believe that the President's philosophy is what he says it is.

With the big spending, opening the floodgates of illegal immigration and interference of states' rights he has demonstrated, I don't believe his philosophy is what he tells me it is.
34 posted on 10/05/2005 8:32:30 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: petitfour
For all the Constitutional conservatives, there is no reason why the President's nominee should not be approved. None.

Lots of gnashing of teeth over nothing.

You are correct!

Wasn't the sentiment as of late, "Screw the Senate, advise and consent is not 'We Choose, not the President'? Now the President has chosen and some FReepers are wailing that they will be calling their Senators begging them not to confirm Miers. Totally skitzoid!

35 posted on 10/05/2005 8:34:47 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: mosquitobite

I did forget about Clifton. But most have been good.


36 posted on 10/05/2005 8:34:59 AM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: StandardDeviation; Admin Moderator
I'll put in a suggestion that this information be made part of the registration agreement. Thanks for the information.

No problem. They use to have on the opening page, but now you have to go to "help" to find it. It actually took me about 10 minutes of rummaging around the links to finally dig it up. I agree with your suggestion that they make new users read it before they sign up.

Of course there is always the learning method from the school of hard knocks. Newbies usually take a few bruises before they learn the ropes, so don't take it personally.

There have been a huge number of vanities pretty much like yours, so most of us are pretty tired of seeing them. I can't say that I completely disagree with your sentiment, but I'm patient. We'll learn more about Miers soon enough. And as far as judicial appointments go, Bush's record is good, so I'm generally inclined to trust him, for now.

37 posted on 10/05/2005 8:39:52 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: StandardDeviation
Do you marginalize everything you don't agree with this way?

No marginalizing here. Just showing how you were proving my point.

Both the President and a Senate get a say regarding who is on the SCOTUS, not just the President.

Again, another DNC talking point. All I am saying is that we are using the same language the Dims used against Roberts. Our reasoning might be different, but the words are the same.

38 posted on 10/05/2005 8:46:02 AM PDT by Niteranger68 ("Spare the rod, spoil the liberal.")
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To: StandardDeviation; RockinRight

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2005/01/20/scherer-judges/

And what about Clifton (9th Cir), Melloy (8th Cir), O'Brien (10th Cir), Howard (1st Cir), Smith (3rd Cir)?


39 posted on 10/05/2005 8:46:19 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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To: RacerF150
"Again, another DNC talking point. All I am saying is that we are using the same language the Dims used against Roberts. Our reasoning might be different, but the words are the same."

OK, maybe I'm getting a bit too defensive.

My question is, so what if the words are the same? Just like a broken clock, even liberals are right once in a while. Their premise and reasoning may be flawed, but sometimes the conclusion happens to be correct.
40 posted on 10/05/2005 8:53:54 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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