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Read His Lips - Bush Keeps His Promise
Pipeline News ^ | 04 October 2005

Posted on 10/04/2005 4:07:12 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: MNJohnnie

It's not panic. It's disappointment.

Bush could have hit a home run and decided to punt.

As many conservatives have noted, a missed opportunity.

As for "not the next SC Justice" yet, given the grins on Harry Reid's face, and given the near impossibility of Republicans rebelling over a Republican Presidential nominee unless she proves herself incompetent, her nomination is well-greased.



21 posted on 10/04/2005 4:31:53 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: MNJohnnie
How are all you so certain she WILL be?????

I'm not. But we may not know for 10 years. So why not nominate someone we know about?

22 posted on 10/04/2005 4:33:27 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: sinkspur

"Anybody who would certainly have voted as Scalia does would have never gotten out of committee, especially if they opposed Roe v. Wade."

Gosh you do set your sights too low!

Roberts got out of committee, and got 78 votes!

If Bush nominated Michael Luttig - known Scalia clone - we would also have been confirmed. Certainly. Not maybe. Certainly.

Not just GOP votes, but red state Democrats would not commit Hari Kari over this. they would confirm the Bush nominee.
Why? Because most Americans *want* a Judge who merely interprets the law.


23 posted on 10/04/2005 4:35:44 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: frogjerk

"How do you know she wont be another Rehnquist because he was never on the bench either?"

All these silly questions ... The original article asserted that Miers would vote a certain way as if it were a fact. I'm saying we dont know ... and you seem to agree.

"How do you know she wont be another Powell or Rehnquist because they was never on the bench either?"

She could a liberal Powell or a conservative Rehnquist.
She could be another O'Connor. WE DONT KNOW is my point.


24 posted on 10/04/2005 4:38:48 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: sinkspur

"Reagan put Kennedy and O'Connor on the Court."

Reagan also put Scalia on the court, and Kennedy was pick #3 after Bork got Borked.

If Miers was pick #3 after we lost on Luttig, McConnell, Edith Jones and Karen Williams, I'd understand.

But after Roberts, and given Bush's great options, it's an underwhelming pick.

Besides, we dont know Miers would be better than OConnor.
Not yet anyway.


25 posted on 10/04/2005 4:42:12 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: WOSG
How do you know she won't be a Rehnquist - he never served a day as a Judge before his appointment. You either trust the President as a man of his word or you don't.
26 posted on 10/04/2005 4:43:03 PM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitur")
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To: MJY1288

"We also don't know how Luttig or Janice Rogers Brown would vote once on the SCOTUS."

WTF?!?! Don't you realize that both have had long, distinguished careers, made public speeches and written many Judicial rulings that make crystal clear their Judicial philosophies??? Maybe you are just uninformed. But others arent. ... this is why 'confirmthem.org' is so upset:

http://confirmthem.org

"Many conserv atives doubted Clarence Thomas also"

Thomas, like Souter, was an unknown. Here is unknown #3.

Some of us dont want to play 'lets make a deal' here ..
"I'll take whats behind curtain #3, Bob".


27 posted on 10/04/2005 4:45:25 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dog Gone
How do you know she won't be another Rehnquist?

How do you know that Joe Torre won't have John Flaherty pinch-hit for Alex Rodriguez in a key situation, and that Flaherty won't hit a home run. This sort of "How do you know" speculation is ridiculous. We don't "know" what the future will bring. We can only offer our best guess. My best guess is that Alex Rodriguez, with a batting average 2 or 3 times higher than John Flaherty's, and with over 400 more lifetime home runs, would be a better choice in a key situation.

We have Michael McConnell on the bench. We have Priscilla Owen, and Janice Rogers Brown. Why take a chance with an unknown whose credentials hardly compare to those of the above three, and probably a hundred others?

See if you can answer the following question honestly:

If George W. Bush had a filibuster-proof, 60-40 Senate (with the 60 all conservative republicans), would he have chosen Harriet Miers. If your answer is "Yes," you are fooling yourself.

28 posted on 10/04/2005 4:47:54 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: WOSG
Bush could have hit a home run and decided to punt.

LOL! Nice mixed metaphor. Perhaps he should have taken a three-point shot or a slapper from the blue-line. Or a penalty kick. Or bowled a 300 game. Or thrown a left hook for a knockout. Or captured the yellow flag. Or sunk a hole in one.

(I apologize. For the first time ever, I have spent today arguing with conservatives instead of liberals, and I needed some diversion. Forgive me.)

29 posted on 10/04/2005 4:52:03 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: WOSG

Well, you have a point about what is known, but Bush knows her better than most Presidents have ever known a nominee, and considering the top notch picks he has made so far, I'll take his word for it over your's


30 posted on 10/04/2005 4:52:54 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Lando,

Upon reflection and with the passage of at least a day now I have swung around and come to completely agree with the gist of the Pipeline article you posted.

I am reminded of something Ralph Reed once said to a group I was a part of which today seems possibly on point here. Ralph said "you don't want to let the enemy catch on to what is happening to them until they are effectively in body-bags.

If our trust in Bush, as well as his trust is this appointment are not misplaced, then it makes sense his nomination of Meir is arguably the smart way to win what we really want.

I suppose victory does not always have to ride in on a white horse and applause.
31 posted on 10/04/2005 4:57:55 PM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Bump to reason.


32 posted on 10/04/2005 4:58:02 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Lando Lincoln

Lotsa conservatives have instincts like the ancient Celts, for fighting style:

Get drunk and naked, run into battle unorganized and screamin. Oh how they loved the fight!!

But lost.


33 posted on 10/04/2005 5:01:27 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: MikeA
THE LAST TIME CONSERVATIVES DIVIDED WE GOT THIS:

THAT'S WHAT WE GET WHEN WE ACT LIKE REACTIONARY LIBERALS

34 posted on 10/04/2005 5:01:49 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
I do wish, however, that Bush had nominated a younger woman, so that she could hold down the spot for a longer time.

That is the only demonstrably valid concern I have seen expressed – not that no other concerns may turn out to be valid but we do not know – that being said, I heard that her mother was 93 an doing fairly well, so she may be around longer than we think.

35 posted on 10/04/2005 5:05:46 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Excellent article.

Order more Prozac, Injectable Thorazine and straight jackets for the haters of GW.


36 posted on 10/04/2005 5:09:37 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Dog Gone

"Bush knows her well. He knows her better than he could possibly know any other potential candidate.

And he describes her as a pitbull in size 6 shoes."


37 posted on 10/04/2005 5:11:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
I'm sure many will be pathologically unable to read beyond this point...

LOL. I made it. I found the article interesting, as I do all of the things that you post. True, we can be an impatient lot, but look how far we've come. Don't give up the battle, even if it means solidly planted baby steps as opposed to fixing bayonets and going over the top. I heard a Canadian on NPR the other day talking about how Americans are different in that they believe if it is necessary to take the law into their own hands to protect their homes and families, they will do so, while he would never think of it and would wait for duly constituted authorities to step into the breach. I pondered that for some time, wondering, in my American way, why anyone would relinquish their right to life and liberty in a crunch to a hoped for "duly constituted" savior.

38 posted on 10/04/2005 5:15:11 PM PDT by Bahbah (Call Chuckie Schumer @ 202-224-6542 for your FREE credit report)heh-heh!)
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To: Lando Lincoln
BRAVO!!!!!!! I could say more but I am in enough trouble around here I am sure!

Thanks Lando for this SENSIBLE, INTELLIGENT, and TRUE post! :-) (aren't you glad I didn't say more? )
39 posted on 10/04/2005 5:15:48 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: WOSG

"Bush could have hit a home run and decided to punt."

No. Bush has his focus clearly on the objective: Get conservative Justices confirmed. Focused pragmatism.

BTW home runs are in baseball; punts are in football. Not focused.


40 posted on 10/04/2005 5:24:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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