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STOP Them Before They Commission Again!!!
Angry OT Blog ^ | 3/6/2005 | Dave

Posted on 09/06/2005 3:27:10 PM PDT by No Longer Free State

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1 posted on 09/06/2005 3:27:13 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: No Longer Free State

Amen. We don't need another commission filled with partisan Dim and chicken republicans.


2 posted on 09/06/2005 3:30:57 PM PDT by JLS
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To: No Longer Free State; Chieftain

Won't work. You are assuming " we're all here to make the collective organization better." Nagin and Blanko care only about their votes, their Party. NO and LA HAD A VERY EFFECTIVE PLAN. The didn't use it.

Commissions are crap too. (okay, okay, yeah, I'm depressed and disgusted with this whole thing).

Sorry for being so negative, but why do we need more Analysis? You just read the plan and list what was not done.
End of discussion.


3 posted on 09/06/2005 3:33:48 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (George W. Bush...a Real Leader for Perilous Times !)
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To: No Longer Free State
No, let them blame the hurricane on GWB. Twenty to forty years later, we can describe the Katrina Commission's findings as "The Single Bulls--t Theory."
4 posted on 09/06/2005 4:08:54 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Congratulations to The Framers of The Iraqi Constitution!!)
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To: No Longer Free State; Randi Papadoo; wagglebee; billbears; WestTexasWend; Chena; Huck; ZULU; ...

Beloved's [No longer Free State] latest offering on his blog PING ....


5 posted on 09/06/2005 4:19:43 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: SkyPilot; No Longer Free State

My beloved asked that I ping you to his latest blog entry, asking that you let him know what you think via FREEPMAIL or email.

FMC


6 posted on 09/06/2005 4:26:11 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Oh come on........don't you want a commission, just to see who they appoint?

I bet Jamie Lee Witt will get a nomination from the Dems!


7 posted on 09/06/2005 4:35:03 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin

ROFL, great TV I am sure.


8 posted on 09/06/2005 4:46:17 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: No Longer Free State
"Gentlemen, we need to form a commission!!"

"HARUMPH, HARUMPH, HARUMPH!!"

"Hey, I didn't get a HARUMPH from that guy!!"


9 posted on 09/06/2005 4:56:26 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Former Military Chick
Thanks for the ping FMC.

I tried to post a comment after signing up at his blog, but it kept telling me I was anonymous, so I quit. Will post my comments here.

Well written and in general I agree with the concept of an AAR. I suspect that such a tool would be quite useful, but probably foreign to most civilian agencies. Having said that, I disagree that no commission is necessary. This was the worst tragedy ever to hit our nation other than the Civil War, and it cannot be excluded from the political landscape. In any case I sense the findings of the AAR (which I completely concur in)will likely demonstrate command and control issues that can only be resolved at the political levels, if then.

Well written and well thought out.

10 posted on 09/06/2005 5:06:16 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for pinging me, FMC. I like the idea of an After Action Review. My husband and I were discussing the idea of a "commission" and the fact that this would soon become the cure-all for what failed Katrina's victims. Both of us agreed that a commission would become a political football and lessons that need to be learned would become lost in the shuffle.


11 posted on 09/06/2005 5:29:45 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Howlin
Oh come on........don't you want a commission, just to see who they appoint? I bet Jamie Lee Witt will get a nomination from the Dems!

LOL! Oh yes, it would be quite interesting. And Jamie Lee TWitt? too funny... :)

12 posted on 09/06/2005 5:32:10 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: No Longer Free State

Yeah, we need the money.


13 posted on 09/06/2005 6:45:31 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Howlin

I suppose Gorelick is out of the question?


14 posted on 09/06/2005 10:10:01 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (There's more to city administration than just hosting a good party once a year.)
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To: No Longer Free State

Is she free? :-)


15 posted on 09/06/2005 10:10:41 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: No Longer Free State

This is all part of Hillary! for President. This stupid, useless, waste of our money so they can go on CSPAN and bash Bush for free.


16 posted on 09/06/2005 10:12:05 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: Former Military Chick
I fully agree with the AAR concept.

I have seen that approach used with safety programs in the oil field (only it is more of an after Accident review), with huge success in preventing future accidents. It is a lot safer out here than it was 20 years ago.

Funny, but so many people are conditioned to the blame game, any 10 people off the street involved in any incident will be playing CYA and blame shifting almost immediately. I have seen this in recent clips from NOLA.

It is tough enough to sit down with even industry professionals at the field level who have been assured that this is not a witch hunt to do a review of events leading to any incident, great or small, in an apolitical setting.

I really have trouble envisioning politicians being capable of doing this. The odd statesman might be capable, but on balance Congress cannot.

Certain members of Congress, however, are highly motivated by partisan political concerns to "do something" to give the appearance of "caring" in a non-election year so they can point back at it next cycle.

I seriously hope they will back off while the people who are handling the problems handle them, rather than disrupting the relief effort with this crap.

17 posted on 09/06/2005 10:34:20 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.)
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To: JLS

Or the other way around, for that matter.


18 posted on 09/07/2005 12:22:50 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (There's more to city administration than just hosting a good party once a year.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Probably won't work, and for the reasons you say. Only way it will work is to do the work behind closed doors with no damn TV cameras and with a very strong leader in charge of the process to keep people honest with each other.

OK, those necessary conditions pretty much mean it won't work.


19 posted on 09/07/2005 12:24:39 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (There's more to city administration than just hosting a good party once a year.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Great TV is the first thing that would sabotage this process. The work needs to be done in private with the results being published afterwards.


20 posted on 09/07/2005 12:25:51 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (There's more to city administration than just hosting a good party once a year.)
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