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To Those Who Voted for Bush: Do You Get It Now?
The Crisis Paper ^ | September 6, 2005 | Bernard Weiner ==> PhD <== Co-Editor, Crisis Paper

Posted on 09/06/2005 12:12:15 PM PDT by rface

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To: lugsoul
The only differences between the two situations are that there was a lot more (a)water and (b) people in NOLA.

That and the fact that New Orleans was in a much mor eprecarious situation vis-a-vis the levee. As far as I know, the other Gulf coast areas would be expected to pretty much drain by themselves and not rely on human systems to hold back water.

That alone makes New Orleans a biger risk and evacuation more important.

SD

161 posted on 09/06/2005 2:21:49 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Fawn
They turned away Iraqis from participating in the reconstruction of their own society, preferring to award the multi-billion-dollar contracts to huge American firms like Halliburton and Bechtel.

This idiot apparently thinks it possible to turn over the operation of an entire oil operation to an Iraqi mom-and-pop firm.

That alone I would be embarrased to post in public.

SD

162 posted on 09/06/2005 2:24:16 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: ArrogantBustard

LOL...and you have discovered the preferred method of administration. (Orally or rectally - there's not a dime's worth of difference, is there? ;-)


163 posted on 09/06/2005 2:34:25 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: lugsoul

Well, I'm ready and now Mr. Peach isn't. LOL

I will also add that it's dishonest in the extreme for the Mayor to decry that help got there too late when he called for a mandatory evacuation too late.

It's been documented on FR that it takes FEMA about 4 days to respond. If WE can find this out, why didn't the mayor know this?

And as Mayor, why was he meeting with lawyers Friday night to see if he had the legal authority to call for a mandatory evacuation? How could he not know this?

This guy knew the levees could only withstand a Category 3 hurricane. They broke. Help didn't get there immediately. In part because his OWN governor told the president she needed 24 hours to decide whether she even wanted the feds there or not.

And I could turn this entire thing around. If 80% evacuation is so terrific and he knew that was about the percentage that would evacuate, then he knew he'd have untold dead with that category force storm.

So where's the big surprise? That help didn't get there fast enough? If four days is the norm for FEMA WITHOUT the water situation in NO due to the broken levees, he should have not been surprised at ALL. Also, when the anarchy started and FEMA had to withdraw and helicopter rescuers were shot at, did he really think things were going to go faster with those conditions?




164 posted on 09/06/2005 2:37:03 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach

You are being too logical!

You could never be a good Moonbat!


165 posted on 09/06/2005 2:45:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That's high praise from you, Ernest!


166 posted on 09/06/2005 2:47:04 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: rface
The state and local governments blame DC.

Washington blames the politicians at the state and municipal level.

Both have valid arguments.

But here is the REAL problem.

These government agencies suck half of every dollar earned out of the private sector and into the cesspool of government waste.


They piss our money away on things designed to retain power, at the expense of the citizens.


Our governmental agencies and those who are paid handsomely to steer them, are failures and should be replaced.
167 posted on 09/06/2005 2:56:00 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock / Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: rface; Pukin Dog
Pukin Dog's answer:

Open letter to Liberals: Bring it on, you bastards; we are going to beat you anyway.

168 posted on 09/06/2005 3:21:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Peach

LOL!


169 posted on 09/06/2005 3:22:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Peach

See link at #168....


170 posted on 09/06/2005 3:24:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: rface

The Stone Age Press has become nothing more than a giant Echo Chamber where all the reporters write for each other. The group think has become so predictable that if you read or hear one reporter you’ve herd them all. Where has all the original thought or creativity gone in an industry that is based on painting history with words? There are two main forces blowing through PravdABDNC that are stifling all diversity of thought. The first is the absolute bias towards the DNC and the other is the fear of going against their Establishment.

Is there any wonder that the Conservative writers continually have best sellers while liberals only have cellars. America is starved for writers they agree with, yet they are continually insulted by reporters who show nothing but contempt for them and their way of life. This is no way to expand your business or even keep the customers you already have. This Country is divided 52-48% Republican, yet the scribes of history are 90% Democrat. How can they report about a Conservative Country when they have no desire to understand it?

How has this Industry become so disenfranchised from it’s customer base? Simple really, the reporters write for each other and know that if they all agree then virtually nobody can be wrong. Take for example the election, even though GW had always polled the lead, the press hoped that Kerry would close at the end and take Florida. To predict otherwise would put you in the minority and if you were wrong you would have to explain why you went against the common group thought. If you were right then the group will just say that it was an upset and cover their error. Since everyone is in agreement there is no threat to lose face and maintain your expert status since you were all wrong together. If you are wrong by yourself you have more explaining to do.

This is how the Stoned Agers have maintained such catch phrases as Bush Lied, WMD, pre-emptive 18 month rushed into, go it alone coalition. This allows lies to be maintained with none of the established reporters willing to buck the tide even had they wanted. All of the awards and front page stories are given to the scribes who are the most established and those are the ones who do not take risks. Now all of the front page reporters are complete DNC spokesmen which leaves a vacuum of divergent thought. Everybody wants their little awards and will do what it takes to receive those awards. You sure won’t soon see Ann Coulter’s name on those little dust catchers.

The major drum & bugle we are going hear over the next couple years will be that Harpy clinton is an automatic for President. None of these ancients will go against the group-think since it will put them out on a limb along with the caster nation of their peers. Nobody will give an honest evaluation of her lack of warmth/humility or shrieking skills. Imagine her telling self deprivating humor? So we will hear nothing except what a great candidate/screecher she is. The fact is that she is a lousy candidate, a poor debater and sagging in the polls. She very may well lose her Senate seat in a “huge” upset. You read it here first and the Old York Times, have they endorsed yet; will make excuses.

The lack of diversity and creativity will be the death of these Dinosnores. With a sophisticated audience and a shortened attention span these old formulas no longer work. When most information was stored and researched in books, attention spans could tolerate boring one sided stories. With the advent of 24 hour news and the internet we no longer have the time or patience to tolerate their droll.

What was once an industry supposedly filled with truth seekers is now a megaphone of the DNC. That and the lack of an original thought over the past 20 or so years and you have the Stone Age Press up to it’s nostrils in the tarpits of histoir. The literal bankruptcy of that industry would bring about a truly Free Press that not only has the political freedom but an intellectual freedom that has long been abandoned. It is not pretty to see these status quo reporters in their death shakes as they invent scandal after scandal in a transparent attempt to return to their glory. You can bet that the Buggy manufacturers had the same condescending smirks on their faces as the Model T splashed mud on their freshly shined shoes.
Enough braying.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


171 posted on 09/06/2005 3:27:13 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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To: dfwgator
What do you mean, if? The standard for Nagin seems to be that he had a monster storm staring down at him, and he didn't get everyone out.

No other mayor in the affected area did, either.

172 posted on 09/06/2005 3:31:17 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul

I never said Nagin had to get everybody out, but at least he could have gotten the most vulnerable out.

And did not Nagin control the police force? Now maybe there is nothing he could have done once the storm approached, but how long was he in office before that? That's my point, my issues with Nagin go way back to even before the storm approached.


173 posted on 09/06/2005 3:34:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rface

He's guilty of writing while stupid.


174 posted on 09/06/2005 3:35:38 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: bray; Pukin Dog

Good rant!

I give it a 9.5 (Pukin has a 10, but I can't find the link...)


175 posted on 09/06/2005 3:37:58 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (muhammed was the most evil person ever to live. May he burn in hell forever)
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To: dfwgator
I'm gonna stick my neck out here, but someone's gotta do it.

Nagin was the most effective mayor NOLA has had in my adult life.

Now, that ain't sayin' much. But apparently some folks think the mayor of NOLA should be the point man for dealing with an epic catastrophe. And that just ain't realistic.

176 posted on 09/06/2005 3:40:58 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: rface
The fact that the great majority of those seeking refuge and rescue were African-American, and that no help came in the first five or six days, spoke volumes about the "compassionate conservatism" supposedly animating Bush's administration. Try to imagine how fast the federal government would have mobilized to reach an upper-class compound filled with thousands of well-do-do white people, with access and influence. You get the picture

Here's a question for you. How many "upper-class, well-to-do" people sat on their a$$e$ when the word was given to get the "F" out of town? Alabama and Mississippi got hit with the same hurricane at the same time, and I'll bet you any amount of money you'd care to loose that there are poor BLACKS there, too. How come AL and MS are NOT crying out for someone to save their sorry a$$e$, like NO,LA is? Because AL and MS resident do not CHOOSE to be victims. They don't need government, and they sure as hell don't need DEMS!

177 posted on 09/06/2005 3:41:40 PM PDT by dirtbiker (If you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans....)
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To: popdonnelly
What if you don't like to waste time arguing with fools?

Or as my Mom would say: "Don't get in a pi$$ing duel with a skunk!"

178 posted on 09/06/2005 3:44:15 PM PDT by dirtbiker (If you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans....)
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To: Shazbot29

Maybe you are referring to article linked at #168?


179 posted on 09/06/2005 3:45:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: rface

Who's this dick?


180 posted on 09/06/2005 3:46:55 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Life is short, dance nekkid and wiggle your butt!)
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