What I got out of this is that the libs want a church with political discussion, but not all that talk about (gasp) God.
Yeah, they call that a democrat party meeting.
But, if you want to see people squirm, use the "J-word." THAT's offensive.
My college professor/state job liberal aunt and uncle attend(ed) a Unitarian Universalist church. When my uncle died I went to the funeral with my conservative parents and conservative brother/sister-in-law and it was a riot as the Wiccans and pagans got up to speak about the memories they will cherish of my uncle. Then they all got up and started dancing, and that's when I decided it was time to take my nieces outside.
I'm searching for a way to describe it. Bizarre doesn't quite cover it. Strange is too nice. Ah ... Liberal, that's the word I was thinking of.
Unitarain Church: No God and Jesus allowed. Lots of gays. Lots of tolerance, except tolerance for Republicans, morals, and family values.
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Someone once said that Unitarians believe in one God -- at most.
However, I do like a lot of the work of Emerson, and he was a Unitarian. I guess they've moved since his time.
"We need to figure out what we believe in as a fellowship...."
hehehehe... that pretty much sums up the left as a whole.
Without being submissive to the will of God via the Holy Spirit going to church is a waste of time.
Bars are a much better venue for meeting people of the same mindset.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
This you gotta read. It is not satire (apparently) - not the Onion, not Scrappleface (or whatever it's called). But real people with their real opinions and experiences.
Categorize as "know the enemy". Not that such deluded souls are enemies, but their foul philosophy is the enemy. I hope some of the lost people will see their flimsy fake spirituality for what it is one day.
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Old joke, but...
You know what happens when the Unitarians get pissed at you?
They burn a question mark on your lawn.
Several years ago back in South Carolina, my wife--the lovely and talented Foxfire4--exhibited her jewelry at a craft fair at the local UU "church" or "temple" or "hall" or "den of iniquity" or whatever they call it. There were signs all over explaining how Jesus was a "great teacher," no references to the Son of God, of course. At one point a small group of Wonder-bread-white kids got up on stage and sang a ditty about "we all come from Africa." A couple of local Druid-types had a booth set up down from us, selling herbal remedies and massages, and were walking up and down the halls in forest-green hooded cloaks and pentagrams.
We had great fun imagining what would've happened if we'd gotten our PCA church pastor--a physically imposing, wonderful, fantastic, Godly man who is a straight-up no-nonsense conservative evangelical Christian and totally unapologetic about it--and turned him loose in there. Comparisons to Jesus, moneychangers, and the temple abounded.
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I thought boomers were post-World War 2 to early 60s...wasn't Kerry born in 1943?
Please enlighten me, what's DU? Originally the Unitarians (guess they got hooked up with the Universalist later on) were a Deist group. I am guessing they were always considered progressive even in the 19th century (probably big abolitionists). The Wiccan thing is a recent development. For the most part Wiccans are usually not part of congregations..not all are involved in covens (more like a study group)...so I am guessing there were a bunch of Wiccans that wanted the congregation experience (and the usual networking that happens out of that) and the only bunch that would accept them were the UU's. To me the UU's are the closest thing to being an agnostic without claiming agnosticism.
They keep looking, and not finding, because they've rejected the only thing that will satisfy.
I have pity for them.
The Dims can always join the parody religion Church of the SubGenius, which worships a piece of clip art, offers "eternal
salvation or triple your money back" (think about that:
if you're dead, how do you collect?) and promised a "Rupture" in 1998 (only to later say that the year was upside down: it will really happen in 8661).
I'm not in the space to contribute much of my time or discretionary funds I need for my mom or to sock away for the future or other goods/services/experiences I want more, but that's my own choice, and it hasn't anything to do with the congregation here.
Somehow this line crystalized all for me.