Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Law Gives Parents Power
Orig.: McClatchy News Service, Reprinted: Midland Daily News, Midland, MI | 7/31/05 | Rob Hotakainen and Melissa Lee

Posted on 07/31/2005 10:11:30 AM PDT by tryon1ja

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 last
To: grellis
My wife once did a Junior Achievement in a 3rd. grade class that had 28 kids. The teacher told her that 18 of the 28 were on Ritalin.
41 posted on 08/02/2005 6:18:58 PM PDT by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: grellis

I'm not a lady but a dad. My daughter was in fifth grade when she had to draw the diagram of her house. I have had other children do similare surveys in several different elementary grades. The sex ed was also in fifth grade. I think they hesitate to ask these questions in high school because it seems to stop when they get there.


42 posted on 08/02/2005 6:22:26 PM PDT by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: G Larry
You know, it's against the law to practice medicine without a license!!!!!

You know, you're just guessing. You can't "PROVE" my child has this condition, and you can't "PROVE" your prescription is SAFE & EFFECTIVE!!!!

They don't have to practice medicine or prove anything. They just tell you that your kid is out of control in the classroom and if you don't get the child put on medication he can't come back to the classroom anymore. You are the one who, before this law change, had to prove your child didn't need to have the medication. Most people don't fight the school system. I don't know if it is because it is seen as an authority figure or because people are just afraid to buck the system and not cause trouble. They just do what the school asks. Some think, as usually the case, that the child will suffer if the parent doesn't act like they are supporting the school. Of course, the schools can also threaten FIA (social services).
43 posted on 08/02/2005 6:31:16 PM PDT by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: grellis; tryon1ja

It's taken me a while to read through this - but I agree - it is creepy.

Makes me very happy that my name (and attitude) is known not only by the school administration, but most members of the school board........and my daughter doesn't start 2nd grade until September.


44 posted on 08/02/2005 6:31:20 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Gabz

My wife has always insisted on keeping active with the school for each of our children, especially the last 4 adopted ones. For a long time there was not too many school days that went by that we did not communicate with someone at the school or the bus driver. They may have gotten sick of hearing from us but we didn't care. A proactive role with the children and the school is far better than letting the school think they are in control and they are part of the village that has to mold our child to their way of thinking.


45 posted on 08/02/2005 6:37:58 PM PDT by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Gabz
I see by your profile that you smoke. I don't but my wife does. Here in Michigan the cost of a carton of cigarettes, last I looked, is about 50 bucks. The state charges 2 bucks a pack tax. I used to buy from Virginia to same the tax but the state is now trying to find out who buys on line and sends them a big tax bill. Some people have received bills from the state for over $4,500. So.......I bought from the Indians for awhile but they have raised there prices so that with shipping I have to pay about $35. a carton. Now.....we buy menthol tobacco and paper tubes at the local tobacco shop and every week I spend a couple of hours rolling her smokes. It is premium quality tobacco and with paying extra for menthol tubes, it costs us about $14 a carton. Thought I would tell you this just in case your state goes crazy with the tax the smokers.
46 posted on 08/02/2005 6:45:36 PM PDT by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: tryon1ja

You know, you're just guessing. You can't "PROVE" my child has this condition, and you can't "PROVE" your prescription is SAFE & EFFECTIVE!!!!

Forgot part of my last post. Our neighbor fought the school on the medication and the school turned her in to social services for child abuse because she refused to give her child medication.


47 posted on 08/02/2005 7:11:16 PM PDT by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: tryon1ja

My husband and I are no different than you and your wife - we believe in being active. Thankfully we live in a district that not only encourages parental involvement and participation, but actually expects it (as much as they can). But even if the school didn't want it - I would be doing it anyway.

Yes, our child is going to public school, however, we are well aware of the FACT that the ultimate responsibility for our daughter's education rest squarely upon our shoulders.


48 posted on 08/02/2005 7:30:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: tryon1ja

I appreciate your concern regarding the cost of cigarettes, even though you don't smoke. My husband and I have been rolling our own cigarettes for close to 5 years now.

We slacked off after we first moved to Virginia 2 years ago when it was a pain to get the tobacco and buying a carton only cost a buck more than making our own........but VA raised the cig tax and while it is not as high as Michigan, it is now back to being cheaper to make our own instead of buying them.

Many thanks for you looking out for other folks!


49 posted on 08/02/2005 7:39:21 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: tryon1ja

"FIA (social services)"... HA
A former schoolmate of mine (Mike Farris) wrote a book on the subject of out of control "social services".

It was written as fiction, but I know enough about Mike's bio, that I'm sure it was real.

If I'd been the victim in that book, they would have been bodies on the doorstep.


50 posted on 08/02/2005 7:56:16 PM PDT by G Larry (Honor the fallen and the heroes of 9/11 at the Memorial Site.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: tryon1ja
I'm a Michigan smoker, too. Been trying to quit for years. One of my sister rolls her own but I still shell out $35 bucks for a carton that is usually four years beyond stale.

I went to school in Rochester in the '70s. We had sex ed in fourth grade back then and I didn't understand any of it. Some of the girls were crying at the end. There's no way my boys are learning about sex from the Lansing school district.

51 posted on 08/03/2005 5:35:22 AM PDT by grellis (node iddum eentup sechew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Gabz

Hey hoofer, how's the ankle?!


52 posted on 08/03/2005 5:35:55 AM PDT by grellis (node iddum eentup sechew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: grellis

Wow. I mean, I know the education system is one big beaurocracy in itself, but I had no idea they actually PLAN it to be that way.

Grellis, you can be assured, that NO teacher or education administrator (I'm sure that will be the next PC term for them) that will pull that on me (now that I know at least). In fact, I'll now take great pleasure in going to that thar roundup just to be a P.I.T.A. Cuz, you know, it will be "for the children". (I promise to never make that statement again.)


53 posted on 08/03/2005 5:57:48 AM PDT by Woman on Caroline Street (I'm not a canned good. Please don't label me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: grellis

Darlin' ya gots to roll yer own!
The money you save is OBSCENE and you'll smoke less.
The tobacco is fresh, and you have to "work" a bit to make that smoke if you want it. After a while, it becomes second nature to just sit and roll one. People will ask you about it and it's even a good conversation starter.

But the best part of rolling your own is that they are free of the additives the cigarette companies add to commercially packed ones. They put things in them that actually make them MORE addictive. I know this is true because I just quit last week. I am also on the patch (level 2 for medium smokers). I don't think it would have been this easy if I was smoking my old standby Montclair Full Flavor 100's.

Save money NOW. And when YOU'RE ready, it will be much easier to quit than with regular smokes.


54 posted on 08/03/2005 6:14:32 AM PDT by Woman on Caroline Street (I'm not a canned good. Please don't label me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson