Palestinian Terms for Peace

Israel & Aliya (blog) ^ | 28 July 2005 | Caitlyn M. Martin

[anotherview]

Thursday, July 28, 2005

Palestinian Terms for Peace

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.
-- PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977

Let us, for the sake of argument, assume Mr. Muhsein's statement was and still is accurate. There is certainly plenty of independent evidence to support it. Look for the term "Palestinians" in any writing dating from prior to the birth of the State of Israel in 1948. The term, at that time, most often referred to Jewish resident of Palestine, most of whom had no other country to call home. There were certainly references to both Jewish and Arab Palestinians at the time, but when talking about nationality the terms Jew and Arab were the two existing national identities.

Without Jerusalem there will be no peace. Peace starts in Jerusalem and ends there. Peace starts by recognizing our right to return, to self-determination, the establishment of an independent state with Jerusalem as its capital and the cessation of settlement. construction.
--Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei, July 26, 2005

Mr. Qurei (a/k/a Abu Ala) is demanding that millions of Palestinian Arabs must be allowed to settle in Israel. This is what "right of return" means. He also insists on "self-determination". We must assume that should Palestinians become a majority in Israel they are demanding the right to run the country. The are also demanding Jerusalem, of course, which is holy to the Jewish people. The last time part of Jerusalem was under Arab rule the courtyard of the Western Wall was used as a garbage dump.

It would seem Prime Minister Qurei adhered to Mr. Muhsein's vision. First a "two state solution" as called for under the Roadmap, and then the Palestinians take over the Jewish state and eliminate Israel as we know it.

The terms for peace Prime Minister Qurei and President Abbas continue to demand amount to an offer to Israel of only one sort of peace: the peace of the grave. If you don't believe me ask one of the leaders of the Israeli left. Yossi Sarid is a Member of Knesset (MK) from Yahad, the farthest left party in the parliament. Under Prime Minister Ehud Barak he, along with party leader Dr. Yossi Beilin, were part of the "peace cabinet" working for an agreement with Yasser Arafat. Here is what MK Sarid, then Minister of Education, had to say in 2000:

There is one issue that can topple everything, and that is the right of return. It is very important that they understand and internalize this. The meaning of the right of return means Israel's suicide. As far as I know, we don't have any plans to commit suicide.

Those are indeed the terms for peace with Israel demanded by the Palestinians: commit suicide. In light of this, and the myth of longstanding Palestinian national identity, why is the Bush administration now again pushing the Roadmap? The Palestinians themselves continue, on a daily basis, to insist they have no interest in peace unless peace is a euphemism for the destruction of Israel. Surely that isn't what the President wants, is it?

[anotherview]

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[SJackson]

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[KC_for_Freedom]

Read, "The Haj" by Leon uris for an interesting look at the Palestinian mind.

They would not be at peace if the Jewish State vanished overnight. They would however stop killing Jews. So who else do they plot against?

[onedoug]

No arab state in Eretz Yisrael.

EVER!

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[Alouette]

They would not be at peace if the Jewish State vanished overnight. They would however stop killing Jews.

No, they would continue to kill Jews elsewhere.

[timsbella]

"They would not be at peace if the Jewish State vanished overnight. They would however stop killing Jews. So who else do they plot against?"

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No they would not be at peace, because they could not be at peace so long as Jews exist on Earth. It is in their interest to perpetuate war - they have no interest in peace, then they'd have to take care of their people and that's more work than killing the infidels ever was.

[KC_for_Freedom]

No, they would continue to kill Jews elsewhere.

Yes of course, but I meant in their region they would stop killing Jews only if all the Jews were gone. My point is that they would turn their hatred upon one another, as they do today without it making as much of an impact in the media.

Why do they hate us? Because they hate period.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Those are indeed the terms for peace with Israel demanded by the Palestinians: commit suicide. In light of this, and the myth of longstanding Palestinian national identity, why is the Bush administration now again pushing the Roadmap? The Palestinians themselves continue, on a daily basis, to insist they have no interest in peace unless peace is a euphemism for the destruction of Israel. Surely that isn't what the President wants, is it?

How much money did our government just give Palestine?

[TheSpottedOwl]

They would not be at peace if the Jewish State vanished overnight. They would however stop killing Jews. So who else do they plot against?

Let's say that they managed to murder every "non believer" on earth. They would then turn on themselves, because they have been raised for centuries to wage war and kill. It's all they know how to do.

[KC_for_Freedom]

The point of course.

[TheSpottedOwl]

I guess the real point is that there will be no peace on earth until everyone is dead, unless we get them first. Of course then it'll be some other bunch of crackpots...

[Salem]

Another very insightful and productive article by our amigo anotherview whose positions concerning some aspects of Israeli domestic policy reflected in recent articles they have posted seems to have become a bit more Conservative in tone, for which we are truly grateful.  

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They'd also continue to kill Christians everywhere as well. They want Jews and Christians to 1) be killed, 2) convert to Mohamedanism at the point of a sword, 3) submit to dhimmi status forever. Their motto is "first the Saturday people, then the Sunday people."

[KC_for_Freedom]

I do not know how the world permits the presense of such evil. You are absolutely correct, Jews and Christians are together under this sword and stand together against the scourge.

[anotherview]

I wish I could take credit for writing this. I can't. She's a family member though.

Shabbat shalom from Pennsylvania (where I am visiting on business today).

[Salem]

"I wish I could take credit for writing this. I can't..."

Of course. I noticed that. I should have said "posted by" in the text.

"...She's a family member though."

Well, good. We know you are in good hands then.