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Enough is enough-Civilization has two choices when facing jihadists (Victor Davis Hanson)
victorhanson.com ^ | 07/25/05 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/25/2005 6:23:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing

July 25, 2005

Enough Is Enough

Civilization has two choices when facing jihadists.

by Victor Davis Hanson

Tribune Media Services

After the July 7 London bombings, some in the United Kingdom wondered if the bombing was in retaliation for Britain having troops in Iraq. Perhaps, they suggested, a withdrawal, emulating the Spanish appeasement after the March 2004 bombings in Madrid, would prevent further attacks. Now there has been another series of explosions in London.

There are two flaws in such thinking.

First, after the Spanish ordered their soldiers home, the emboldened jihadists plotted further murders — most notably, the foiled plot to assassinate members of the Spanish High Court in Madrid.

Second, after the London bombings, the al Qaeda-linked group that took credit for the carnage threatened, "We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan."

Note the reference to both theaters.

In the West, the new orthodoxy is that removing the theocratic Taliban in Afghanistan was the "correct" war that enjoyed widespread European and American support. In contrast, George W. Bush, in a "unilateral" and "pre-emptive" fashion, unnecessarily attacked the "secular" Saddam Hussein.

The terrorists, unlike us, make no such distinctions. Both actions, they insist, were equal affronts to radical Islam.

Somehow even Israel gets pulled into the story of the London bombings. The murderers decry the "Zionist crusader government" of Britain.

Speaking of Israel, shortly after the London attacks, a suicide bomber in Netanya, perhaps in sympathy with his kindred spirits in Britain, walked over to a group of women and blew them up.

He killed five persons, including two 16-year-old girls. This slaughter, in Israel proper, not the West Bank, took place during....

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1 posted on 07/25/2005 6:23:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
its simple

civilization or Islam

Islam has to go
2 posted on 07/25/2005 6:28:30 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: smoothsailing

Fantastic read! Thanks!


3 posted on 07/25/2005 6:30:53 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (Formerly known as TattooedUSAFConservative (Too much to type) :))
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To: smoothsailing
Instead, the psychopath icily advised the mother of the murdered van Gogh "I have to admit I do not feel for you, I do not feel your pain" and "I cannot feel for you. ... because I believe you are an infidel."

There is no way to understand the minds of these people. Their death is the answer

4 posted on 07/25/2005 6:31:42 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: kellynla

Hanson ping


5 posted on 07/25/2005 6:32:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: smoothsailing

Come on....

The lib press in Britain is right, they were attacked for the sole reason that they have troops in Iraq, just like Egypt.........Opps! Right?

Someone help me out, I am lost with this logic.


6 posted on 07/25/2005 6:34:26 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Charlespg
I was talking with my mother's pharmacist, who is from India, the afternoon of the London bombings. She made a startling statement to me. She said that she'd grown up with "muslims" (her word, not mine) and the only way to deal with them is to kill them. They will never stop unless you kill them.

My husband and I feel she should know!

7 posted on 07/25/2005 6:39:42 PM PDT by WeddingPlanner
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To: smoothsailing

Hanson just got another fan.


8 posted on 07/25/2005 6:39:50 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: smoothsailing

Hezbolla's "Salute" - look familiar?

9 posted on 07/25/2005 6:42:21 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: Prime Choice

PING!


10 posted on 07/25/2005 6:45:18 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura
I can't see the pic??
11 posted on 07/25/2005 6:46:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: smoothsailing

12 posted on 07/25/2005 6:49:23 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: WeddingPlanner
I was talking with my mother's pharmacist, who is from India, the afternoon of the London bombings. She made a startling statement to me. She said that she'd grown up with "muslims" (her word, not mine) and the only way to deal with them is to kill them. They will never stop unless you kill them. My husband and I feel she should know!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078381/posts

The Mohammedan Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.

13 posted on 07/25/2005 6:51:46 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Zacs Mom
Says it all.
14 posted on 07/25/2005 6:59:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: bitt
New Hanson,have you seen it ping?
15 posted on 07/25/2005 8:48:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: smoothsailing; CHARLITE; Tolik

thanks!! love this guy.


16 posted on 07/25/2005 8:57:59 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: smoothsailing
"Civilization has 2 choices when facing jihadists."

There's absolutely no choice for Civilization. It's either SHAKESPEARE:

or --- SHEIKSPEARE:

17 posted on 07/25/2005 10:19:31 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Charlespg

"Hey! Hey!
Ho! Ho!
TROP
Has got to go!"


18 posted on 07/26/2005 11:12:49 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: datura

Students of Mein Quran. Sand nazis in filthy nightshirts..


19 posted on 07/26/2005 11:13:39 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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