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Pakistan refuses to take action against London terror suspects
India Defence & NewsInsight ^

Posted on 07/25/2005 6:35:07 AM PDT by Srirangan

25 July 2005: Britain and Pakistan have got into a stand-off situation in respect of three imams linked to the London bombings who have gone into hiding in the Binori madrasa in Karachi, the training ground of the Jaish-e-Mohammad, and the Lashkar-e-Toiba headquarters in Muridke outside Lahore.

Diplomatic sources said British prime minister Tony Blair insisted on Pakistan raiding these places and arresting the imams, who are said to have masterminded the bombing, but General Parvez Musharraf refused, saying the government had no firm indication of their presence there, and the UK did not share a level of relationship where it could seek such action.

Sources said that in anger, Blair asked Musharraf to make his refusal public, which the general declined to do, whereupon he sought US intervention, and the American secretary of state, Condoleezaa Rice, spoke to the Pakistani president, but without moving him.

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The UK is giving Pakistan two weeks to smoke out the three imams, and it wants its own forces to raid the suspected premises...
1 posted on 07/25/2005 6:35:09 AM PDT by Srirangan
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To: Srirangan

State sponsored terrorism from a nation that has the a-bomb.


2 posted on 07/25/2005 6:36:28 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I wouldn't go that far just yet.

Musharraff is ticked off that Pakistan is being blamed for the terror attacks in London and rightly so. They were homegrown terrorists not Pakistani's.

They'll get it worked out. Watch.


3 posted on 07/25/2005 6:40:20 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Brilliant

It’s probably time to take out their weapons program.


4 posted on 07/25/2005 6:41:42 AM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: nuffsenuff

I’d be more confident of that if they would work with us to sweep the border for OBL and friends.


5 posted on 07/25/2005 6:44:52 AM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: Brilliant
Diplomats said Pakistan knew the three imams, whose identities are not being disclosed for security reasons, were hiding in madrasas, but authorities could not raid them without provoking a fierce backlash, something which could damage General Musharraf’s position and rock the Pakistani army.

If a military dictatorship like Pakistan is afraid of a muslim backlash, I wonder how a new democracy like Iraq will react when its mosques start spewing venom and hiding terrorists.

I fear that democracy is a puny challenger to Islam.

6 posted on 07/25/2005 6:46:51 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Srirangan

"The UK is giving Pakistan two weeks to smoke out the three imams, and it wants its own forces to raid the suspected premises..."

Oh yeah? Really??
And just what is the UK planning to do if Pakistan dosent comply? Give them Eurofighters I suppose.


7 posted on 07/25/2005 6:51:20 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Dark Skies
"I fear that democracy is a puny challenger to Islam."

That’s like saying good is a puny challenger to evil. Democracy’s power is broader than force and tyranny. It captures the imagination and energies of the people, believing that they actually can get something done through the system. Don’t be afraid.

8 posted on 07/25/2005 6:55:13 AM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: Srirangan

it may or may not be true, i suspect a fair amount of disinformation about helpful muslim governments is disseminated by the west to try to give them cover for helping us.


9 posted on 07/25/2005 6:58:10 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: elfman2

They are working with us on that.

Problem is it has to be done very very covertly or there will be a civil war on Pakistan.

You're just not going to hear about it on the news, but Musharraff has a vested interest in getting rid of Islamists.


10 posted on 07/25/2005 6:58:23 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Srirangan

The Pakistanis no doubt know where Bin Laden is, if he's actually alive. They are obstructionists. I think Bush's courting of India, a true friend, was smart. PAkistan, with its harboring terrorist mentality, is working on its own anniliation.


11 posted on 07/25/2005 6:58:52 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Dark Skies

"If a military dictatorship like Pakistan is afraid of a muslim backlash,"

I don't doubt that they are afraid, given how many attempts on Mussharaf's life there have been.


12 posted on 07/25/2005 6:58:52 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: nuffsenuff

They were of Pakistani descent, though, at least some of them.

What's interesting is that NONE of them were Iraqi. Using the liberals' own 911 litmus test, it then appears that Iraq had nothing to do with the London bombings. Yet, the liberals insist that Iraq was the direct cause of the bombings.


13 posted on 07/25/2005 7:01:15 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I fear that democracy is a puny challenger to Islam

Lech Walesa, Rev. Dr. ML KIng, Jr., and Mahatma Gandhi have shown us that people seeking freedom from oppression can succeed.

14 posted on 07/25/2005 7:01:45 AM PDT by syriacus (Muslims who really want peace should unite behind a non-violent leader like Gandhi, King, or Walesa.)
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To: Dark Skies
I fear that democracy is a puny challenger to Islam.

I agree. That infidel, Democracy, may well be forced to ride in the back seat and will certainly be barred from showing her face in public if the Imams continue to rein unchecked.

15 posted on 07/25/2005 7:04:07 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Srirangan
Is the India Defence & NewsInsight really an objective source with regard to Pakistan?
16 posted on 07/25/2005 7:04:19 AM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: Srirangan

What happened to going after Terrorists AND any countries that harbor them?


17 posted on 07/25/2005 7:05:07 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: WoofDog123

OBLaden first met Afghanistan's Sheikh Mohammad Omar at the Banuri town mosque near Karachi. Banuri is the home of an infamous Deobandi madrassa, an ultra-Islamist religious school that achieved fame under Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, author of more than 2,000 fatwas -- most predictably reactionary. The Government of Pakistan, and Musharraf in particular, seems afraid to attack this nest of vipers.


18 posted on 07/25/2005 7:06:16 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: elfman2
Actually, you hit the nail on the head! Democracy is an element of good, it is the governmental structure of good. But the entirety of Good is much greater than just its governmental form in human life.

My point is that Islam is not a government...it is the religion of evil. The only thing that can stand up to "evil" is indeed good. Evil is far to great to be threaten by any government structure no matter how divine in origin.

19 posted on 07/25/2005 7:11:27 AM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is as "...dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: nuffsenuff

Perhaps, but I suspect that very very covert reforms from those fearful of backlash have a way of stagnating while their proponents continue to sell them and buy time.


20 posted on 07/25/2005 7:12:15 AM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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