Paul Williams LIVE on Savage Nation: Al Qaida Nukes in America?

KNEW ^ | July 13, 2005 | Michael Savage

[underwiredsupport]

Live on KNEW. Listen over the net!

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

OK, I found his other book (same guy, same subject):

"Osama’s Revenge: The Next 9/11"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1591023491/qid=1121297435/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/103-4108770-6174258?v=glance&s=books

[RightWhale]

That's true. I think the deal with the Soviet Russia backpack nukes hit a decade ago. It even made Newsweak.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

And this guy's already written one book on the exact same topic. I mean, he's repeating himself...and repeating one's self is merely plagirism compounded with bad taste.

[mcshot]

Drat I've been sitting here waiting for Savage to come on XM. Guess that answers what kind of loyal listener I've been lately.

mc

[MizSterious]

And there in a nutshell is the one burr in my bonnet about our President. Like the UK, he hasn't seen the problem with phoney diversity. (And it IS phoney: in the UK, they live in little Muslim enclaves, not really a part of the rest of society at all--according to folks I know who live there.)

[RightWhale]

He is repeating himself from last night nearly verbatim. Last night he also mentioned DEBKA as a top rated source of info. I'll tell you though, if even a single nuke is discovered anywhere in the world, not even set off but just found in a city, there are going to be some massive changes, and the world economy, if there is such a thing in reality, will crash.

[Echo Talon]

Drat I've been sitting here waiting for Savage to come on XM.

Yea the moron(Savage) took himself off XM right before his book came out. Smart marketing strategy huh? I always thought that if i had a radio show I would want to reach as many people as possible ESPECIALLY if I was trying to sell a book! :D

[MizSterious]

One suspects a little exaggeration and grandstanding going on. The darned book hasn't been published, and people are already criticizing it.

[Southack]

"Former FBI agent, speaking of nukes in USA? Is it for real?"

No, a former FBI *consultant*, who doesn't understand physics, is telling you something that apparently gives you a charge...but it's not grounded in science.

Suitcase nukes are SMALLER than ordinary nukes.

The smaller the nuke, the shorter the shelf life.

The less shielding that you have, the sooner that your electronics and conventional explosives deteriorate from the radiation.

The less fissionable material that you have, the faster you generally need your atomic trigger isotopes to emit neutrons. The faster you emit neutrons, the shorter your half-life. The shorter your half-life, the less time that you have before the nuke simply fizzles instead of booms. Beryllium trigger isotopes can have as little as a 79 day half-life, for instance.

This is simple physics. Moreover, heavy metals like uranium and plutonium are among the most brittle materials known to man, and the slightest bit of humidity turns them into uranium oxide or plutonium oxide (i.e. worthless rust).

So a "suitcase nuke" from 1991 (the fall of the CCCP) is likely little more than a rusted, shattered, fragmented collection of wiring and explosives today.

[SpaceBar]

Savage rocks. The best of several interviews with Mr. Williams I've heard. On another note, it's pretty pathetic listening to the Houses of Parliment debating team take on bloodthirsty killers with perfect british accents of nobility. Cricket anyone?

[True Capitalist]

former FBI *consultant*, who doesn't understand physics, is telling you something that apparently gives you a charge...but it's not grounded in science.

Great post. Someone needs to call Savage to raise these points.

[underwiredsupport]

One suspects a little exaggeration and grandstanding going on. The darned book hasn't been published, and people are already criticizing it.

I have to agree with you Miz....I mean geez, I don't know if this guy is for real or not.  But I have one guy on this thread claiming he has already read the book.  And what is really scary, he truly thinks he HAS READ IT.

My comment stands,

If someone in July of 2001 was saying Islamofacist were planning to fly Commercial Jets into the WTC...these same folks on this thread would be having a hoot-N-any...

• CLOSE THE BORDERS NOW.
• WATCH ALL MOSQUE
• BEGIN EXTREME RACIAL PROFILING OF MIDDLE EASTERNERS
• DEPORT ALL WHO LACK LEGITIMATE DOCUMENTATION.

Why is this considered radical?

 

[underwiredsupport]

Ring him up, he is still live on the West Coast..1-800-449-8255

[underwiredsupport]

A caller on the Savage show says there is no such thing as a suitcase nuke? But found this on the net...

Suitcase Nukes

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/readyguide/suitcasenuke.htm

A suitcase nuke or suitcase bomb is a very compact and portable nuclear weapon and could have the dimensions of 60 x 40 x 20 centimeters or 24 x 16 x 8 inches. The smallest possible bomb-like object would be a single critical mass of plutonium (or U-233) at maximum density under normal conditions.

The Pu-239 weighs 10.5 kg and is 10.1 cm across. It doesn't take much more than a single critical mass to cause significant explosions ranging from 10-20 tons. These types of weapons can also be as big as two footlockers.

The warhead of a suitcase nuke or suitcase bomb consists of a tube with two pieces of uranium, which, when rammed together, would cause a blast. Some sort of firing unit and a device that would need to be decoded to cause detonation may be included in the "suitcase."

Another portable weapon is a "backpack" bomb. The Soviet nuclear backpack system was made in the 1960s for use against NATO targets in time of war and consists of three "coffee can-sized" aluminum canisters in a bag. All three must be connected to make a single unit in order to explode. The detonator is about 6 inches long. It has a 3-to-5 kiloton yield, depending on the efficiency of the explosion. It's kept powered during storage by a battery line connected to the canisters.

Effects

External radiation occurs when either part of or all of the body is exposed from an external source, such as when a person is standing near the site of where a radiological device such as a suitcase bomb or suitcase nuke is set off and he or she is exposed to radiation, which can be absorbed by the body or can pass completely through it.

Contamination occurs when radioactive materials in the form of solids, liquids or gases are released into the air and contaminate people externally, internally or both. This happens when body parts such as the skin become contaminated and/or if the harmful material gets inside the body via the lungs, gut or wounds.

Incorporation of radioactive material occurs when body cells, tissues and organs such as bone, liver, thyroid or kidney, are contaminated.

Gamma radiation can travel many meters in the air and many centimeters once in human tissue; therefore they represent a major external threat. Dense material is needed as a shield. Beta radiation can travel meters in air and can moderately penetrate human skin, but clothing and some protection can help. Alpha radiation travels a very short distance through the air and can't penetrate the skin, but can be harmful if inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through open wounds.

Radiation in the first hour after an explosion is about 90 percent, with it going down to about 1 percent of the original level after two days. Radiation only drops to trace levels after 300 hours.

Symptoms

People in the immediate vicinity of a suitcase nuke or suitcase bomb detonation would likely die from the force of the conventional explosion itself. Some survivors of the blast might die of radiation poisoning in the weeks afterward. Those farther away from the explosion might suffer radiation sickness in the days and weeks afterward, but recover. Over time, risks of cancer in the affected area would rise, but perhaps only slightly.

A mix of physical symptoms must be used to judge the seriousness of exposure. Impact of radiation poisoning also changes if the body has experienced burns or physical trauma. In the case of treatable victims, extensive medical treatment may be needed for more than two months after exposure.

Some symptoms may include vomiting, headache, fatigue, weakness, diarrhea, thermal burn-like skin effects, secondary infections, reoccurring bleeding and hair loss.

Treatment

If detection and decontamination occurs soon after exposure, about 95 percent of external radioactive material can be removed by taking off the victim's clothing and shoes and washing with water. Further decontamination may require the use of bleaches or other mild abrasives.

Treatment of a victim within the first six weeks to two months after exposure is vital and is determined by what types of radioactive isotopes to which the victim was exposed.

Medical personnel will treat victims for hemorrhage and shock. Open wounds are usually irrigated to cleanse them of any radioactive traces. Amputation of limbs may occur if a wound is highly contaminated and functional recovery isn't likely.

If radioactive material is ingested, treatment is given to reduce absorption and enhance excretion and elimination. It includes stomach pumping or giving the victim laxatives or aluminum antacids, among other things.

If radioactive material has gotten into a victim's internal organs and tissues, treatment includes giving the patient various blocking and diluting agents, such as potassium iodide, to decrease absorption. Mobilizing agents such as ammonium chloride, diuretics, expectorants and inhalants are given to a patient to force the tissues to release the harmful isotopes. Other treatments involve chelating agents. When ingested, these agents bind with some metals more strongly than others to form a stable complex that, when soluble, are more easily excreted through the kidneys.
 

[MizSterious]

I don't know if this is true or not either, or even if it's possible (one poster thinks not). However, it doesn't have to be a suitcase nuke. There are dozens of other ways to hurt and/or kill a lot of people--and it's just so easy to slip over the borders (northern and southern). It seems to me that at a bare minimum, we should be taking care of the borders. At the very, very least.

[mission9]

What was interesting and I think new was Williams assertions that a Palestinian with a back pack bomb was intercepted by Israel in Oct. 2001 trying to infiltrate. Also the assertions about intelligence on Kalid Shiek Mohammed's laptop about meetings with Osama and Kahn, ( the Pakistani a-bomb man). This could provide Osama with some level of weapons expertise.

[Southack]

"A caller on the Savage show says there is no such thing as a suitcase nuke? But found this on the net... A suitcase nuke or suitcase bomb is a very compact and portable nuclear weapon and could have the dimensions of 60 x 40 x 20 centimeters or 24 x 16 x 8 inches. The smallest possible bomb-like object would be a single critical mass of plutonium (or U-233) at maximum density under normal conditions. The Pu-239 weighs 10.5 kg and is 10.1 cm across. It doesn't take much more than a single critical mass to cause significant explosions ranging from 10-20 tons."

Lets count the number of errors in your above-mentioned web site's description (I can hold your hand through this process if you insist upon being obstinate) after reading what *actual* nuclear physicists determined:

The American Richard Feynman was responsible for correctly calculating the amount of uranium needed to achieve critical mass (his enemy opponent in Germany, Heisenberg, got this math wrong - destroying Nazi efforts to build their Bomb). Critical mass is the amount of uranium needed to start the chain reaction. However, if you have a certain amount more than the required mass to start the reaction, a supercritical mass, the reaction would take place faster and grow exponentially. Feynman calculated about 50 kilograms (110 lb.) of pure Uranium would be required. However, the Uranium obtained was seldom pure, so a larger amount would be needed. Robert Oppenheimer said that the required supercritical mass would be about 100 kilograms (220 lb.) of pure Uranium.

[investigateworld]

So as I understand what your saying ratios are not critical, but weight (total) is?

[Southack]

Ratios are not foremost; absolute mass is.

[investigateworld]

Gotcha, All my blowing up things (road building) was ANFO, cheap, stinks like heck, but effective.