My immediate impression of the unknown is that it is an old spring pellet gun... an airgun... like a BB gun. How is it loaded? Does the barrel lever downward?
Posted on 07/08/2005 6:01:34 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
Looking for info on a J Stevens Arms Company Model 37 rifle.
2 of them are in horrible shape. The third while it needs a good cleaning is not too bad. Unfortunately I know nothing about it and my web search skills seem to be failing me today.
Description: Model 37, 410 gauge made by J Stevens Arms Company in Chicopee Falls, Mass. It is a bolt action rifle.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks, I knew it was a shotgun when I typed rifle! Maybe I should go back to knitting. I dont plan on selling the guns, but I will get the info on the other two, they are considerably older than the Model 37. I will put up some digital pictures as well if anyone is a gun enthusiast, I just like them and shoot them!
Thanks for info I will head over there and see if I cannot dig up some history on the guns.
We're interested and may be able to help you identify them and establish a value.
Post away.
Of course I forgot to take the pictures. Working nights, but will try to rememebr to do it tomorrow and post em up.
But I did watch a good documentary on camoflage and the military :)
Finally got info. Hard to read on one but it is a .22 long rifle. Any info you can provide or a link is appreciated.
Remington Arms Company, Iolon NY
Serial number 51909
http://members.cox.net/7slot/Remington2.jpg
The other is so rusty and dirty I cannot get anything off of it. Here is a picture.
http://members.cox.net/7slot/Unknown1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/7slot/Unknown2.jpg
Thanks in advance
Pinging you to let you know I posted links to pics and what info I could get on the guns.
Now I am trying to gigure out why my fatehr in law had a small game and bird shotgun! He also has a .38 pistol and a .45, still need to try to get those from him. For some reason he is holding on to them...
My immediate impression of the unknown is that it is an old spring pellet gun... an airgun... like a BB gun. How is it loaded? Does the barrel lever downward?
It is in such bad shape that nothing moves on it at the moment! I may take some light oil to some areas of it and see if I cannot coax any motion out of it.
*ping*
I messed up the city name on the Remington, it is Ilion NY.
Finally. I think the Remington might be this
http://www.remington.com/aboutus/history/m12.htm
I remember seeing the name Pederson on it and the date 1909 for the patent. I will have to check again to be sure but this might be the gun.
It is not a Model 12A,B,or C. All of these Model 1909 and (later renamed)model 12s had an internal hammer and bolt with side eject. Notice the lack of hammer on this Remington Model 12C receiver:
Yours looks like a Winchester 1890 or 1906 to me:
I cannot find a picture of a similar REMINGTON bolt action rifle... if yours does say Remington on the Barrel, it may have been rebarreled (Doubtful) or it may be really rare (even more doubtful). Check this picture of an early Winchester 1906 .22 Pump:
It definitely says Remington on the barrel. I will have to really study it tomorrow and take some close up shots of the barrel and action. I will try to get a good picture of the scribing on the barrel. Thanks for your inputs on this, despite 22 years active duty, I never really learned about more than the M16 I shot (Qual Marksman - Yay Me 39/40 on target)
Ok, now I am even more confused!
On the barrel:
Remington Arms Company Ilion NY USA
Pedersons Patents Jan'y 5 1909 Other Patents Pending
By rear site
.22 Long Rifle
Behind the trigger guard is a serial number 96898
Behind the hammer in top near the stock in big letters it says
Winchester
Trademark
Bingo!
Someone has rebarreled your Winchester 1906 .22 rifle with a Remington Model 1909 or 12A barrel. This devalues the gun completely as a collector's item but it may be a fine shooter.
I may just have to clean it up and get it in firing order then to see if it is a good shooter. Why in the world would anyone do that! Of course my father in law has no idea, he got it from his father.
The early Winchester 1890s and 1906s were often shot with blackpowder .22s and/or corrosive primer .22s that caused the barrels to deteriorate. In addition, these pump action guns were very popular with shooting gallery use... which wore out barrels very fast. It is probable that a previous owner had one that had been shot out and needed a barrel... and had a broken Remington, and a metal lathe...Voila! Mr. Winchester, meet Mr. Remington, The result: a bastardized rifle that shot again.
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