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Death of a Father
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | June 23, 2005 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 06/24/2005 5:10:11 AM PDT by RogerFGay

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1 posted on 06/24/2005 5:10:11 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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Tragic but it's not a smart idea to take a hand grenade, live or not, to a courthouse.


2 posted on 06/24/2005 5:20:09 AM PDT by deadeyedawg (Crush our enemies, listen to their lamentations, and drive them before us!)
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3 posted on 06/24/2005 5:25:22 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: deadeyedawg

Tragic but it's not a smart idea to take a hand grenade, live or not, to a courthouse.

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I agree. This stunt was ill advised, especially in this post-9/11 world and since the recent killings in the courthouse in Atlanta.

But I do understand his and other fathers' plight. Our legal system is woefully inadequate when it comes to what is best for the children. To be fair, I've seen my share of deadbeat dads....but I've also seen women using their children as weapons to extort money from the children's fathers. And far too many women get custody of their children even though the old saw that mothers are the best guardians has been proven to be untrue in many cases. The husbands/fathers are often left out in the cold and shut out of their children's lives, while paying huge amounts of money for the "children" (often the money actually goes for personal items for the mother). It's an unfair system.


4 posted on 06/24/2005 5:44:48 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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After years of protest marches, filing lawsuits, and objecting to the treatment he and other parents receive, to no avail, Perry Manley dressed himself in military clothing and went to the courthouse with one last appeal - and a dummy hand grenade.

I have no more sympathy for this guy than I would for a thug who waves an unloaded handgun at cops. Common sense would tell you - you do that, you are going to get shot. The cop has no idea the gun is not loaded (or that the hand grenande is a dummy).

6 posted on 06/24/2005 6:03:45 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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My Nephew has custody of his child,Only because he had proof she was addicted to drugs and was givng sex for drugs. His wife was ordered to pay child support 10 yeards ago , he has yet to receive the first dime. She has since married again and left that father in custody of her 2nd child. He got custody for the same reasons my nephew did, This woman has yet to serve a day in jail for not supporting her child. she goes along in life breeding and taking drugs, How long do you think a man would get away with this?


7 posted on 06/24/2005 6:03:57 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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Approximately two years ago the Child Support Bureau in Ohio sent me checks totaling approximately $8,000 for over paid child support. My ex wife had told the court my kids were attending college when in fact that were not. Still lost about $6K.


8 posted on 06/24/2005 6:10:00 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Approximately two years ago the Child Support Bureau in Ohio sent me checks totaling approximately $8,000 for over paid child support. My ex wife had told the court my kids were attending college when in fact that were not. Still lost about $6K.

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I'm surprised you received anything back. Where I live, there is no real system in place to check on where the support money goes, and even if they do find fraud on the part of the recipient parent, the one who paid out seldom if ever sees a dime of that money returned to him/her.


9 posted on 06/24/2005 6:28:22 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Yes, I am surprised myself, it came in a good time, two weeks before X-mas and at a time I was changing jobs and moving overseas and ensured my family was provided for until I could get my paychecks sent to my family. God was looking out for me and my family.
11 posted on 06/24/2005 6:55:14 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: MEGoody

You're really off the subject of the article.


12 posted on 06/24/2005 10:27:31 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: deadeyedawg

I think it's pretty well established that it was an act of desparation and that he was aware of the risk.


13 posted on 06/24/2005 10:28:30 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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14 posted on 06/24/2005 10:29:39 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: MEGoody
I have no more sympathy for this guy than I would for a thug who waves an unloaded handgun at cops. Common sense would tell you - you do that, you are going to get shot. The cop has no idea the gun is not loaded (or that the hand grenande is a dummy).

Exactly what I would have guessed you would say.

15 posted on 06/24/2005 12:27:31 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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You're really off the subject of the article.

No he's not. Perry Manley commited suicide by security guard. This totally destroys any arguments he had that his case was just or even logical.

While I agree that these days divorce is worse on the fathers than it is on the kids, killing yourself by security guard is not the way to advance your cause

16 posted on 06/24/2005 12:48:39 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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The article was really about what led up to the event ... the corruption that turned his life into a torture. The guy tried everything else he could think of for 15 long years. I think you're just being unreasonable.


17 posted on 06/24/2005 2:01:34 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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18 posted on 06/24/2005 2:50:57 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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Do you have a ping list for fathers rights activism? If so can you add me to it?

TYVM

19 posted on 06/24/2005 3:38:08 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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I have a ping list ... hasn't really specifically been set up as a fathers' rights ping list ... but I'll put you on it.


20 posted on 06/24/2005 7:04:21 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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