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America's Exit Strategy for Iraq - "Nuts!"
6/21/5 | Rainman

Posted on 06/21/2005 1:13:26 PM PDT by RainMan

Lately I have heard a lot of blather regarding the need for an "Exit Strategy".

To this, I say Nuts!

America, wake up! Listen to what the press, and the democrats, are feeding you and tell them to shove it! An exit strategy is not something that you normally prepare when going to war. An exit strategy is what you make when you have LOST and you are trying to figure out a way to retreat with your tail intact but between your legs. An exit strategy is not something that victors develop.

There are those that now compare this war with Vietnam, and call this war unwinnable. Yet this war should be compared less with Vietnam, and more with the Cold War. This is not a war of nation vs nation, but a war of ideology. Some wars cannot be won by conventional means but they still need to be fought. The Cold War was won, only because we had a president in Reagan that created a tactic that no other president had tried before. Reagan looked at the Cold War with fresh eyes, and saw what we had more of than anyone else ... money, and used it to win the war. Where other presidents fought to a stalemate ... a so called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD ... Reagan upped the ante and came out with Star Wars, and forced the USSR into a spending program that they could not match. We won the Cold War in short because we bankrupted the other side. That took creativity, vision, and leadership.

But we still have not won the "War on Terror". Is it winnable? I think so. Even if it is not, the good news here, is that the war does have a vestige of a sociopolitical front where we may not win an outright victory, but we at least destroy our enemies infrastructure. That front is in the creation of true democracies in both Afghanistan and Iraq. First step, clean out the rabble. Second step, provide security and help them develop the proper infrastructure. Third step, let them take charge of their own democracy, and provide them with whatever level of support they ask for.

Where in there is an "Exit Strategy". We are in the second step as we speak. To even create or announce an exit strategy is an admission of surrender! If we exit before the job is done ... if we even hint that we MIGHT exit before the job is done ... all we do is embolden our enemies.

Lets go back to WWII and the steps above. We clean out the rabble, develop the infrastructure, and then provide ongoing support, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH ITALY, GERMANY AND JAPAN IN WWII. Where was our exit strategy for Italy? for Germany? for Japan? You know the answer, there was none. Why not? Because we were winning, and we did win! Remember what General McAuliffe said in Bastonge when the Germans demanded his surrender on Dec 22, 1944? "Nuts!" The story goes further however ... the Germans did not understand the response.

From http://www.thedropzone.org/europe/Bulge/kinnard.html

McAuliffe then asked Col. Harper to deliver the message to the Germans. Harper took the typed message back to the company command post where the two German officers were detained. Harper then told the Germans that he had the American commanders reply. The German captain then asked, "Is it written or verbal?" Harper responded that it was written and added, "I will place it in your hand."

The German major then asked, "Is the reply negative or affirmative? If it is the latter I will negotiate further."

At this time the Germans were acting in an arrogant and patronizing manner and Harper, who was starting to lose his temper, responded, "The reply is decidedly not affirmative." He then added that, "If you continue your foolish attack your losses will be tremendous."

Harper then put the German officers in a jeep and took them back to where the German enlisted men were detained. He then said to the German captain, "If you don't know what 'Nuts' means, in plain English it is the same as 'Go to Hell'. And I'll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddam German that tries to break into this city."

The German major and captain saluted very stiffly. The captain said, "We will kill many Americans. This is war." Harper then responded, "On your way Bud," he then said, "and good luck to you." Harper later told me he always regretted wishing them good luck.

That was the extent of our exit strategy in WWII, and it should be the same now. Nuts to the MSM, Nuts to the looney left, Nuts to the Terrorists ... and no, we do not wish any of you good luck.

Yesterday Condi Rice gave a speech in Cairo stating that for years America has treated the middle east with a strategy of letting the dictators be, and trying to keep the peace ... but that we are no longer going to follow that strategy. Moves towards democracy are now required, and we will no longer tolerate totalitarian regimes that support terrorists. Think about this people ... for years our strategy was to placate, not to win ... just as MAD was our strategy in the Cold War. Bush is now upping the ante, and saying you have to have a democracy, you have to be accountable for what goes on in your borders. This is Star Wars for the War on Terror.

We have a bunch of limp-wristed spineless anti-americans telling us we need an "Exit Strategy" because they WANT us to lose! I say Nuts! to them ... and to anyone that agrees with them. Wake up America! We are winning. We have a "Victory Strategy", and the right leader in George Bush. No Nuts about it


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1 posted on 06/21/2005 1:13:26 PM PDT by RainMan
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To: RainMan

Agreed.


2 posted on 06/21/2005 1:14:21 PM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: Best seat in the house, and we're paid to be there.)
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To: b4its2late


Seconded.


3 posted on 06/21/2005 1:18:21 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: RainMan

EXIT STRATEGERY = V I C T O R Y


4 posted on 06/21/2005 1:21:38 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: RainMan
Great rant!!!! Now let's get your blood pressure back down with some humor I just found on another thread...maybe Rummy ought to send this to the Democrats if they insist on a timetable...

New Forces to Be Deployed

The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 man elite fighting unit called the US REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF).

These North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Tennessee boys will be dropped into Iraq and have been given the following facts about Terrorists:

1. The season opened today.

2. There is no limit.

3. They taste just like chicken.

4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus.

5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt.

This mess in Iraq should be over IN A WEEK.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 1:21:42 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

ROFLMAO!


6 posted on 06/21/2005 1:22:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RainMan

This was great to read! I agree! :o)


7 posted on 06/21/2005 1:24:47 PM PDT by misty4jc
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To: RainMan
"Yet this war should be compared less with Vietnam, and more with the Cold War"

Only if we had occupied the Soviet Union and were giving them billions of dollars a year in welfare. Heck, if we had done that for the Soviets, Communism would have NEVER collapsed. Islam isn't going to collapse with that sort of treatment either.
8 posted on 06/21/2005 2:11:00 PM PDT by monday
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To: ravingnutter

Hey, Raving Nutter! Help me out here!

New Forces to Be Deployed

The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 woman elite fighting unit called the US PMS SPECIAL FORCES (USPMSSF).

These women from all walks of life will be dropped into Iraq and have been given the following facts about Terrorists:

1. Your period starts tomorrow.

2. They have all the Midol.

3. They taste just like chocolate.

4. They don't like fine wine, SUVs, Yanni's music or Jesus.

5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of (Dale Earnhardt.) (I CAN'T THINK OF WHO SHOULD GO IN THERE!)

This mess in Iraq should be over IN A WEEK.

LOL! :)


9 posted on 06/21/2005 2:23:24 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RainMan

"Nuts to the MSM, Nuts to the looney left, Nuts to the Terrorists ... and no, we do not wish any of you good luck."

Amen to that!


10 posted on 06/21/2005 2:24:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RainMan

Bumpus!


11 posted on 06/21/2005 2:51:17 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: ravingnutter
3. They taste just like chicken.

More likely they taste like skunk. But they are mean MFer's. Quite a test of hunting skills to take 'em. Maybe too hard for a bunch of Rednecks.

5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt.

Yeah, I heard they sabotaged his car. The bastards! ;-}

12 posted on 06/21/2005 4:21:51 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: RainMan

We can exit Iraq once the Iraqi Army and the Iraqi police are able to defeat the insurgents on their own. If we were to leave early and the insurgents were to take control Iraq, they would like allow Iraq to become the next base of operations for Terrorists wanting to attacking America.


13 posted on 06/21/2005 5:30:53 PM PDT by NatsFan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Silly girl : ) You had the answer all the time...

Diana, Princess of Wales.


14 posted on 06/22/2005 6:09:58 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Perfect! Thanks for the giggle. :)


15 posted on 06/22/2005 6:59:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RainMan

I agree ... the pubblies should use this thread as talking points.


16 posted on 06/22/2005 12:06:37 PM PDT by Itsasquak
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