Posted on 06/03/2005 7:16:14 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Has Andy Stephenson entered a DUmmieland Witness Protection Program? For the past few days, ever since Andy began publicly harassing the relatives of Bev Harris by posting their names and personal information about them, Scamdy has DISAPPEARED. In fact ALL MENTION in Dummieland about Scamdy’s “pancreatic cancer” has disappeared and if any there are so bold as to post any reference to Scamdy, Skinner immediately sends it down the Memory Pitt. As to Pied Piper Pitt, following his much ballyhooed posting of documents “proving” that Scamdy did indeed have pancreatic cancer, he has retracted his head into his turtle shell and REFUSES to further comment about those documents. One big reason is that those documents Pitt posted accurately predicted in an April 27 FAX that Scamdy would have surgery during the week of May 23 even though at the time of the FAX the surgery was still scheduled for May 10 and wasn’t rescheduled until almost 2 weeks after the FAX was sent. Right now the DUmmies are hoping that the whole Andy Stephenson Situation (as Skinner called it) would just go away. Unfortunately for Dummieland, the DUmmie FUnnies will STILL shine the light on this scandal which demonstrates what a bunch of dim-witted gullible fools the DUmmies were. Until Scamdy or Skinner or Pitt makes a full public confession (or are indicted) the DUmmie FUnnies will consistently hammer the DUmmies on this subject in all future DUmmie FUnnies. This edition of the DUmmie FUnnies based on a DUmmie THREAD titled, “Are we really going to let the GOP talk us into running Hillary?” will continue smoking out the DUmmies on this point. As usual the DUmmie postings still in Scamdy Denial are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, about to reveal some inside political info he recently received, is in the [brackets]:
Are we really going to let the GOP talk us into running Hillary?
[Consider it payback for talking us into nominating Bob Dole in 1996. Bob Dole didn’t so much run to win as to merely build up his resume. Somehow this latter seemed very important to Dole in his future career of doing Penile Erectile Dysfunction commercials on TV. At least we have no doubt that Dole suffered from this problem (no one admits to this condition unless they really had it) but we STILL don’t know what sort of medical problem Andy Stephenson had although it was almost certainly NOT pancreatic cancer.]
I think she would be an awful candidate. She's not that great a speaker, clearly not at all concerned about corporate power, posturing more and more "moderate" all of the time. The Senate alone has at least a dozen other Democrats who would make better candidates than her.
[All the more reason why Karl Rove has designated her as your ’08 nominee.]
But the GOP is licking its fetid chops, man. They can just about taste the hatefest they would enjoy if she were running. There would be no holds barred on the calumny and slander that they would rain down on her.
[Karl Rove has put out a directive to NOT accuse Hillary of faking a pancreatic cancer operation. Something like that is OFF-LIMITS.]
They are walking a fine line, though. Having demonized her for more than 10 years now, they need to talk Democrats into getting her through the primaries, so they have to cool it down a bit and talk about what a great potential candidate she would be. David Broder put up a column not too long ago just like that.
[Psst! Why do you think the Bushes and Bill Clinton are acting like buddies now? It’s all part of the Rovian Master Plan.]
But they can't stop talking about her. Both Hannity & Colmes and Bill O'Rodent had segments on her Tuesday night. What other Democratic politician gets so much attention from those loons?
[Kerry recently got a flurry of press attention when he FINALLY signed his Form 180 to release his military records to the public. Yes, he FINALLY signed Form 180 and now we are waiting for him to FINALLY drop that signed form in the mail.]
Thinking "well, if the GOP hates her so much, they must be afraid of her, therefore she would be a great candidate" is the trap the Democrats cannot, must not, walk into. Step away. This will be the most important national IQ test for the Democrats in a long time.
[I am SO CONFIDENT of the low DUmmie IQ that I can flat out state the Rovian Game Plan without the slightest fear that you DUmmies can do anything about it. Hey! If you were DUmb enough to send in your money to Andy Stephenson for a phony pancreatic cancer operation then you certainly will easily be manipulated by Karl Rove despite advance warning.]
Having said all that, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat next to any GOP candidate. But please Lahd, and all my fellow Democrats, please don't let it come to that.
[It WILL come to it. And now to announce the ULTIMATE DUmmie nightmare, DUmmie ProfessorPlum. Not only is Karl Rove saddling you with Hillary but the GOP candidate for ’08 has already been decided upon---Dick Cheney. You think that Bob Woodward story about Cheney being drafted in ’08 was just idle speculation? A Republican Deep Throat handed that story to Woodward to pass along. The fact is if Cheney’s doctors give him the go-ahead and IF Cheney is convinced there is a groundswell of support for him, he WILL run in ’08. Look forward to a CONTINUATION of the Bush policies following the next election.]
condi vs. mccain. rove attacks once again.
[Nope. Cheney vs McCain=Cheney Winner. Rove STRIKES again!]
Let them run their nutcase ... and we should pick someone sensible. I like HC, but she simply has no chance for victory. All the general polls do not change the fact that swing state voters will not bite.
[Nutcase McCain might run but he CAN’T win against Cheney. “President Cheney.” Prepare for those words, DUmmies.]
If the Democratic Party runs Hillary ( a pro-war neodem), it deserves to lose. But we don't. If we can't get the party to wake up, the real Democrats ought to put together their own ticket with real Democrats.
[Hillary WILL be your losing candidate. Live with it.]
the media and GOP dictated who our candidate would be and those fine tuned political machines in Iowa and New Hampshire went for it hook, line and sinker. *cough*assholes*cough* It's been interesting to watch the same exact process being put into motion yet again.
[Interesting and FUnnie to see the Democrats falling for it ONCE AGAIN. ’08 will be a DOUBLE WHAMMIE for you folks. Hillary as your losing nominee and Cheney as OUR President.]
Even if she doesn't run, the GOP will make money on the RW's fear that she will. That's why we're hearing so much about her right now.
[All part of the Vast Rovian Storm. Hillary’s name will raise TONS of money. However, she WILL be your nominee. Make no mistake about that. So Rove has said. So let it be done.]
I guess that now, they want to tout her as the be-all of candidates for Dems in 08. We need someone who can WIN and I'm not sure Hillary can - which is why I think they are trying to ram her down our collective throats. And of course, they've subcontraced the MSM to help them do it.
[Choke on the Hillary in your collective throats!]
Sad to say, I don't like her enough to defend her when the hate fest revs in gear. And, I would never vote for either.
[HILLARY vs CHENEY = GOP LANDSLIDE]
We need her but we are too goddam stupid to elect her, so we don't deserve her.
[Hillary is just TOO GOOD for us. We don’t deserve her. Also we don’t deserve that other candidate for sainthood---Andy Stephenson.]
actually, technically, she is a horrendous speaker that has never squelched the "ah" impulse.
[Ah. You know, Hillary, um, does seem to, you know, have that, ah, problem.]
What if it was MCCain vs Clark. That would be interesting.
[About as realistic as Andy Stephenson’s pancreatic cancer. 2008 will be Hillary vs Cheney. Count on it.]
That was the most bizarre thing I've ever watched on a talk show. He had to be on something. My daughter and I watched in shock for the first 5-10 minutes, then it just continued to get worse as the show went on. Why is he playing chicken Oprah? Or is he attacking her? Either way, why Tom? What happened to you, Tom? We're afraid of you now.
When you get back, check out the new andyscam thread. We've got a guy claiming to be a PI hired to watch somebody (not clear who).
LOL! just like DU when the early exit polls came out!
I am buying stock in HALLIBURTON today.
I think it's going to get pretty wild over there.
Well, according to DUmmy PI some of us are going to jail. So in case anybody missed it in the last DUFU's I have called the top bunk. :)
Don't worry though, I just spoke to Mr. beandog (an attorney) and he says he'll find us all a good criminal attorney. LOL
What a lame PI, he never even made it into the right thread, you would think he would be interested in the documents if actually a PI by a newspaper.
Oh, I think he is a PI alright. A Pun Idiot.
Where is the new andyscam thread?
I may consider doing that, but would it stifle the discussion? Would the main players decide not to post if their IPs are on display for everyone?
I'm talking about the one misty memory set up "silence of the scams". He apears to have started a new thread and calls himself PrivateI. Kinda lame.
Thanks.
Can somebody make a link to these "PI" threats? It sounds hilarious!
You should consider the opinions of others before you do it, I've been on boards where it didn't stifle the discussion but Andy's cheering section has some nasty and vindicitve people in it and on second thought it might not be a good idea to post IPs. You might want to watch them though, or get someone to help who can.
I would appreciate all the help I can get!! I have to be gone for long periods of time sometimes and I worry someone's gonna do something stupid while I'm gone and it won't get taken care of 'til I get back.
thanks. I don't think we need to have everyone's IP broadcast. Just the administrator Misty Memory should keep track of the IP's of everyone posting on there, and call people out if they're claiming to be someone or something they are obviously not. I have a sneaking suspicion that PrivateI is none other than Goodboy, a.k.a. Badboy, a.k.a Tourettesboy, etc. Has about the same style of "writing" and a similar habit of making vague threats and refusing to answer simple questions.
It is appropriate, given this stage in the exposure of the Andy scam, to review the goals, what has been accomplished, and what remains to be accomplished.
Of course, the primary objective had been to stop a scammer in his tracks, minimizing the damage. That goal was accomplished actually several weeks ago, after exposure on a conservative web-site within hours of the first fund-raiser.
The spigot may have flowed richly the first few days of the scam, but the flow constantly diminished, as the scam was increasingly exposed all over the internet, and even ideological allies of the scammer began having reasonable doubts.
Perhaps the cash is still flowing, but it is probable it is just a trickle now, compared with what it might have been; also there is evidence that plans for a further, larger fund-raiser had to be closed down.
So the primary objective was reached a very long time ago.
The secondary objective had been to compel those involved in the scam, to incriminate themselves in their own words. Those involved in the scam are hardly taciturn people, and such self-incrimination has been flowing more lushly than the dollars ever flowed.
This secondary objective is still on-going, although it is long past time all those involved have incriminated themselves; all that comes from them now is icing on the cake, the cake itself already having been secured.
The third objective was to get the ideological allies but ethical opponents, of those involved in the scam, to do their own checking, to draw their own conclusions, to gather their own evidence.
This third objective is gathering steam, and now past unstoppable; and as soon as those on the left, on the liberal side, but ethical, take over the momentum of investigation of this scam, then we on the right, on the conservative side, can probably lay off, relax.
In case anyone needs reminding, this was never an ideological issue, or a personal issue, but instead a matter of ethics. Those who demand "honest and open elections"--a commendable objective, and anyone of any ideological stripe commends them--should be held to the same standards they demand of the rest of us.
While we on this side of the political aisle have disagreements with those on the other side of the aisle, we are allies with those on that side who wish accountability; and we do not intend to mock or deride our allies interested in ethical conduct.
The fourth objective was to get a strict accounting for the funds donated, and their use--this of course being unrealistic for the average public to attain, being more so in the domain of law enforcement and tax revenue agencies.
However, it did, and does, not hurt for the average public to yell and scream about possible financial shenanigans, because such noise ultimately arouses the attention of those who can do something about it.
Finally, we have at times been diverted--at other times not diverted-- by the "sympathy angle." As if it is okay for someone terribly ill, perhaps dying, to commit fraud.
That someone is terribly ill, perhaps dying, is a sad and tragic thing, and our hearts go out to that individual--but one has to keep separate the "person" from the "fraud," and the fraud is the issue here, not the person.
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