Posted on 05/13/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
It looks like William Rivers (Pied Piper) Pitt is doing a lot of worrying that the scam perpetrated by Andy Stephenson is going to explode in his face. Pity Poor Pathetic Pied Piper Pitt (had to get in at least one allitertation) for he hasnt slept since April as you can see in this Pitt authored DUmmie THREAD titled, I could use a little help here. Yeah, Pitt, you could actually use a LOT of help WHEN the AndyScam blows up in such a way that even the incredibly gullible DUmmies realize that Andy Stephenson has been scamming them just as cold-bloodedly as his former mentor, Bev Harris. A constant theme right now in DUmmieland is that they just KNOW that Andy is on the up and up BECAUSE Pied Piper Pitt told them so. I hate to tell you this DUmmies but Pied Piper Pitt has ALSO been having doubts about the DUmmies as have been documented in the Free Republic discussion forum of the previous DUFU edition titled, About the Andy Stephenson situation---Skinner. Oh, and speaking of Skinner, havent the DUmmies noticed that he has been MIA since issuing his doubts about Stephenson a few days ago? Skinner is less than an hour from Baltimore but he has yet to make the short trip over there to verify Andys fraudulent story. It is The Silence of the Scams. So let us now join Pied Piper Pitt in his state of complete sleeplessness. Somehow I think Pitt will be greeting the sun for many, many mornings to come. As usual the insomniac rantings of Pitt and his DUmmie followers are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who enjoyed a refreshing night of deep sleep, is in the [brackets]:
I could use a little help here
[You sure do, Pied Piper Pitt, especially after the DUmmies form a lynch mob to go after you when even those dopes realize FOR SURE that they have been scammed by Andy Stephenson, thanks in large part to you vouching for Andys honesty.]
I haven't been able to sleep for about two weeks. I start to drop off, and maybe actually sleep for about 20 minutes, before popping awake. Last night, for about the fifteenth day in a row, I saw the sun come up against my will. This has started to affect my stomach, which makes sleeping harder. I have tried exercise to wear myself out, and have managed to badly strain a muscle in my back.
[Your back will hurt even more after the DUmmies start angrily beating on it while cursing you for enabling the AndyScam.]
So, to recap: No sleep since April, rotten stomach, torn up back. I've reached that insomnia point where I am psyching myself out; I got no sleep the night before last, spent yesterday writing a PDA action alert and a 30-minute speech transcript, drove two hours to do the speech, gave the speech, did a three-hour Q&A, talked to people for another hour, drove two more hours to get home, and by the time I got back here I was literally quivering with exhaustion.
[So, to recap: You are worried sick about what will happen to you after Andy Stephenson is proven to be a complete FRAUD even to the satisfaction of the incredibly gullible DUmmie suckers.]
But I laid awake until 6:37am (I remember looking at the clock), popped awake an 8, 9, 10 before finally giving up and getting up at 11. I can barely see straight right now, my stomach feels like it has snakes in it, my back is killing me so I can't exercise...and I know for a stone fact that I won't be able to sleep again. Tried a nap an hour or so ago. Came thiiiiiiiis close to dropping of and then popped awake.
[3:11 AM: Worried sick about the backlash when Andys scam is finally proven.
3:12 AM: Will they toss me out of Dummieland?
3:13 AM: Will my speaking engagements be cancelled?
3:14 AM: Maybe I could change my identity.
3:15 AM: DAMN YOU TO HELL, Andy, for suckering me into being your lousy cheerleader!!!
3:16 AM: Is it 3:17 AM yet?]
Any ideas? I've already heard about taking mela-whatever, but that stuff gave my mother splitting headaches when she tried it. I have drastically cut back on caffiene. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I've reached that violently, violently, violently frustrated stage of insomnia where sleep is a guaranteed impossibility, and if a routine like yesterday's (while on no sleep) can't get it done, I am at a total loss.
[Confession is good for the soul. And now let us read the hilarious advice on insomnia cures from your fellow DUmmies, Pitt.]
scotch. start about 3pm. you'll be out by 9
[Thunderbird. Start about 3 PM. Youll be homeless by 9.]
Tried it. I managed to make myself unconscious, but that isn't sleep. Woke up worse off the next day. Tried it again a few days later, and all that happened was I was drunk and wide awake.
[Pied Piper Pitt---The wide awake drunk. Thats what happens when you fall such obvious scams that Andy perpetrates.]
sex?
[Unfortunately Andy can no longer be located.]
Move the clock...for one thing. Looking at that thing with the blinking : all night can be horrifying.
[If Pitt moves his clock all it will mean is that he will have to keep walking over to it every 5 minutes to check to see if he got at least a half hour of sleep.]
yes, sex works remember, only in fundie land is a monogamous partner of the opposite gender who desires to become pregnant is a requirement for "sex."
[Only in DUmmieland does it not matter what gender or species your sex partner is.]
Will: see a doctor. Insomnia is a bitch, although I only get it maybe once or twice a month.
[Pitt needs to see a shrink doctor. See Pitt lying on the shrinks couch? Let us see what the shrink is writing on his note pad: Just plain NUTS!!!]
This sounds like a case for sleeping pills though I ordinarily wouldn't recommend them.
[NOT a good idea. Pitt would be tempted to swallow the whole bottle after the AndyScam blows up in DUmmieland.]
Benadryl. But don't take it every night, as you can become addicted (as per my physician husband).
[Methinks Pitt would become addicted the first night after desperately popping pill after pill of those Bennys.]
Eat lots of turkey! Turkey has natural sleep inducers in it.
[And if that doesnt work, have someone take a frozen turkey and slam it on Pitts head to knock him out.]
My problem is that I have bad physical reactions to anti-histamine stuff. I had raging bad allergies as a kid, and was always loaded up on the stuff. After a few years it just messed me up, and still does whenever I touch it.
[I can sympathize, Pitt. Im allergic to wool so Ive had to cross sheep off my date list. Such are the sacrifices Ive had to make.]
Tonight I will do turkey, warm milk and the tub
[Youre going to do turkey in a tub filled with warm milk, Pitt? You really ARE kinky!]
Yes - I like Tylenol PM myself.
[I once tried to commit suicide by taking a cyanide pill. Unfortunately some sick bastard tampered with the cyanide pill bottle and I took a Tylenol that he inserted instead. Im suing!!!]
empty your mind, grasshopper...
[ be just like your fellow DUmmies, cricket ]
I don't really know any tricks to get to sleep but one thing I discovered is that it makes no sense to just lay there willing yourself to do it - the more you try, the less likely it is that it will happen. So when I couldn't sleep, I'd get up. I'd tidy the house, I'd do laundry, I'd go for a walk, I'd read, I'd write, I'd work. Eventually, I'd get very, very tired and I'd lay down again. If I didn't get to sleep within a reasonable time, I'd get up again.
[Good idea Hey Pitt! My pad needs cleaning and after that you can do my laundry.]
stop doing crystal meth that's what I had to do.
[speed_addiction is that you?]
The back thing is my own fault. I've been beating the shit out of myself on my weight bench, way overdoing it to try and get sleepy. A muscle in my shoulderblade area finally got tired of it and told me to f*ck myself.
[And after the AndyScam scandal explodes, Pitt, your fellow DUmmies will be telling you the same thing as your shoulderblade muscle told you.]
Definitely see a doctor...there might be a physiological reason you're having trouble sleeping.
[Pitts problem is ALL mental.]
Will, I'm not a doctor, but I am going to go ahead and give you medical advice anyway. Your body is telling you to take a break.
[Yes, good advice. Take a break, Pitt, on a Costa Rica getaway with Andy Stephenson. Dont worry about expenses. Andy has $50,000 to blow.]
Otherwise, until you see an internist, a bit of turkey, milk and a warm bath. Then find something boring, yet educational, to read.
[Maybe not educational but Pitts own writings should do the trick.]
A friend of mine who went through a divorce said she would drop her jaw down as you would right before you fall asleep and then force herself to COUNT SHEEP. It actually worked for her.
[It wont work for me. I told you before that Im allergic to wool.]
One word solution... PAMPER!
[One word solution PAMPERS!]
White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint/distand thunderstorms and rain, and it's coma-inducing).
[White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint Pitt speeches, and its coma-inducing).]
Breathe thru your eyes ... Bull Durham
[Breath thru your butt Andy Stephenson.]
Watch some mindless TV.
[Keith Olbermann.]
Ambien is habit forming and every person is different. So telling someone to ignore legitimate and documented side effects and product warnings is not particularly sound advice, wouldn't you agree?
[WARNING: Side effects of Ambien may inlude nausea, diarrhea attacks, dizziness, urges to support left wing loony causes, and the total loss of any ability to discern obvious scams.]
dude...seriously...smoke up. If I need to be asleep, pot is my friend to a nice, happy, and deep sleep.
[Puff the magic dragon down by the sea!]
First of all, sleep is over-rated.
[Sleep? Who needs it!]
You need to start "shutting down" very gradually.
[After the DUmmies finally wake up to the AndyScam, they will be shutting down Pitt very rapidly.]
Try to figure out what caused this abnormal sleep cycle to begin in the first place and address that issue.
[I dont believe that Pitt thinking about how he has become Andy Stephensons lead cheerleader in Dummieland is going to help him get any sleep.]
Go To An Acupuncturist ASAP.
[Perhaps the acupuncturist can anesthetize those brain cells containing all memories about Andy.]
want something natural? try acupuncture- & I know where to get it cheap in the south end
[I dont know about Pitt but Andy certainly would love to be acupunctured in the south end.]
You really should go to a doctor for a sleep evaluation. This may include keeping a diary for a week or so
[May 13: WHAT? WHAT? WHAT will I do when the DUmmies rise up against me when the AndyScam breaks?
May 15: Need to leave the country. PRONTO!
May 16: Quick flight down to Costa Rica.
May 20: Slight gender preference modification but the honeymoon with Andy is just dreamy!]
Cancel your appointments. Don't listen to TV or radio. Turn off your cell phone. Rent some funny movies.
[Flim Flam Man. The Sting.]
1600?
My advice to him is to declare a BK and flee the country.
I think it would be more to the point if Mr. Gunderson and Perhaps Mr. Scott Jarvis, Director of State Financial Institutions were allowed more time to reflect on why these two check images, one with Verity's routing number, the other with a routing number to a non-existent bank, both made out to John (sic) Hopkins Hospital, and no record of sale, purchase, or delivery to payee, unless you count "a channelle's" version of events as told to "I-like-good-things too."
These gentlemen will need time to discuss the matter with the payee, i.e., the payee's in-house legal representatives of which there are legion.
They might want to consider the matter of lax security, even the honesty of their staff and managers which I-L has remarked on over many posts as being "conceivably," dubious.
I-L raised the issue of verification. Straight through IL continues to state in dfferent ways, sometimes in responses to posts that don't mention the check, that the checks are authentic, real, "I proved they were genuine. Now you can stop talking about the checks; they're off the table; let's get on to more important things; let's not waste valuable time."
The images of these checks are major. A public display of check images with no bank or credit union name, but only the routing numbers with the mispelled name of an internationally famed research and patient care hospital were used in what might be determined to be the first nation-wide internet scam by conspirators connected to politically oriented internet websites.
Please do not fall asleep- right now. This is tedious, I know. But we are not here to prove that the internet images of check copies are similar to originals. The forensics are not quite that straightforward.
We can be of service to the integrity of other websites by providing information that makes it more difficult for sites to be used as milch cows. Professional investigators use that information to establish probability of malfeasance, if there is any.
The images of the checks, are what's important. It will be important that Johns Hopkins did not receive these checks on the day DUers say they found "certified checks" in the Johns Hopkins mail room. Of course, Johns Hopkins permits clown posses to ransack their mailrooms all the time.
In using these check images on the internet to persuade a restless following that their leaders could be trusted shows an almost brutish indifference to the human dignity of the people they duped.
It also shows what might be considered a psychopathic arrogance to really believe that the rules of decency and fairplay are for suckers.
DU deleted the check images, as well as the Medical report supposedly from Johns Hopkins. They thought they could flash them on the website, then delete them, and nobody would be the wiser; not Verity Credit Union, not Johns Hopkins, one of finest medical centers in the world, which they maligned and slandered as if they were all meeting in a private room where no one but their followers would know.
I asked Franksolich if we could ask the Robinsons not to delete any posts, no matter how furiously the abuse button is punched. DU is deleting like mad; Freepers screensaved a message from Andy saying he had kited a check.
FR members are doing yeoman's work capturing and keeping the fleeting, ever-changing stories that are propping up Andy.
But there are ringers on FR, and the more desperate they get the more combustible the thread gets, but we cannot lose any posts.
Newsguyone was on the previous thread. There were a few things of interest but then everything was deleted. I wish just for these Andy threads that Mr. Robinson would let us keep every post, even the most abusive and snarling, if it is a response to a legitimate question.
Thanks, PJ. Sorry to shoot down your idea. It would be a good one if we were dealing with actual checks. I think the geniuses who thought of putting up the check images were ignorant of the significance of the routing numbers. A Freeper way back in the 400's on this thread researched it.
Brilliantly.
Free Republic has the best researchers anywhere. b
I cannot stop laughing at all this; never in my life have I seen such a large group of absolutely gullible IDIOTS as at DU....every con man in the country must be reading these threads and salivating about easy pickings!
Mums da word. Remember that for now, franksolich.
Just an FYI for you on all of this. FR isn't the only place where the information on all of this has been saved. There is a duplicate of everything that was supposedly flushed at the DUmp at another website.
PLEASE give us a hint. Does it have to do with this Andy situation or something else altogether, I will be F5 all day!
Yup! AndyScam. 'Nuff said...for now.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I am glad to see that I'm not the only only who doubted I_Love_Good_Things_Too's veracity.
Something has struck me as strange abouot this whole thing.
It is obvious that we have had thousands of hits from DU coming over here to see what is going on. What I find strange is their silence. I am sure a good portion of them are not coming over here to learn about what has happened but to see what we have done to their boy. In thier eyes we are attacking one of their heros and they have not trashed us on their site.
The lid is on tight and anything other than "Hugs for ya, Andy!" is not allowed.
Does anyone know how long Paypal holds funds?
That will determine how much longer Scamdy is going to string everyone along.
In other words, none of this would be happening if Paypal had released the funds. None of these trolls "vouching" for his credibility on various websites. No postings of fake checks, CT reports, etc. All of these actions seek to "suspend disbelief" until the monies clear.
IMO.
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Speed, don't call the Verity Credit Union to verify the checks. Please. See my post on this thread 1531.
Normally 3-4 days up to 7-10 business days. If there are excessive chargebacks paypal may hold the funds indefinately.
I think the damage control is to keep anyone else from issuing chargebacks.
In case one does not understand, "kick" in DUmmieland moves a buried thread back up to the top of the pile, in the hopes of getting more readers.
greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Mon May-16-05 09:57 AM Response to Original message 79. Kick for Andy. This is a great thread.
You know, I am really and truly offended. The DUmmies, and most of all the felonious Andy himself, still refuse to acknowledge that it was the DUmmie FUnnies where their story (whichever story it was; there have been too many stories to count) was first brought to light.
Instead, they have been blaming this "Mr.NiceGuy" guy, and the other esteemed conservative web-site, and the gentle lady Bev Harris.....when, if they had been reading the DUmmie FUnnies, they would have known as long as eight days ago, who had the goods on them.
I guess I entertained some sort of wild fantasy of a "show-down" between this Sandhills cowboy and the felonious Andy, flinging facts and invective at each other across the web-sites, this one and DUmmieland.
This Sandhills cowboy yelling out a cold hard fact here, and the felonious Andy bellowing out an excuse over there.
But alas, that never happened, and so one adjusts as well as one can.
Hey bud, if you're not going to call, is there someone else who has volunteered?
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