Posted on 05/13/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
It looks like William Rivers (Pied Piper) Pitt is doing a lot of worrying that the scam perpetrated by Andy Stephenson is going to explode in his face. Pity Poor Pathetic Pied Piper Pitt (had to get in at least one allitertation) for he hasnt slept since April as you can see in this Pitt authored DUmmie THREAD titled, I could use a little help here. Yeah, Pitt, you could actually use a LOT of help WHEN the AndyScam blows up in such a way that even the incredibly gullible DUmmies realize that Andy Stephenson has been scamming them just as cold-bloodedly as his former mentor, Bev Harris. A constant theme right now in DUmmieland is that they just KNOW that Andy is on the up and up BECAUSE Pied Piper Pitt told them so. I hate to tell you this DUmmies but Pied Piper Pitt has ALSO been having doubts about the DUmmies as have been documented in the Free Republic discussion forum of the previous DUFU edition titled, About the Andy Stephenson situation---Skinner. Oh, and speaking of Skinner, havent the DUmmies noticed that he has been MIA since issuing his doubts about Stephenson a few days ago? Skinner is less than an hour from Baltimore but he has yet to make the short trip over there to verify Andys fraudulent story. It is The Silence of the Scams. So let us now join Pied Piper Pitt in his state of complete sleeplessness. Somehow I think Pitt will be greeting the sun for many, many mornings to come. As usual the insomniac rantings of Pitt and his DUmmie followers are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who enjoyed a refreshing night of deep sleep, is in the [brackets]:
I could use a little help here
[You sure do, Pied Piper Pitt, especially after the DUmmies form a lynch mob to go after you when even those dopes realize FOR SURE that they have been scammed by Andy Stephenson, thanks in large part to you vouching for Andys honesty.]
I haven't been able to sleep for about two weeks. I start to drop off, and maybe actually sleep for about 20 minutes, before popping awake. Last night, for about the fifteenth day in a row, I saw the sun come up against my will. This has started to affect my stomach, which makes sleeping harder. I have tried exercise to wear myself out, and have managed to badly strain a muscle in my back.
[Your back will hurt even more after the DUmmies start angrily beating on it while cursing you for enabling the AndyScam.]
So, to recap: No sleep since April, rotten stomach, torn up back. I've reached that insomnia point where I am psyching myself out; I got no sleep the night before last, spent yesterday writing a PDA action alert and a 30-minute speech transcript, drove two hours to do the speech, gave the speech, did a three-hour Q&A, talked to people for another hour, drove two more hours to get home, and by the time I got back here I was literally quivering with exhaustion.
[So, to recap: You are worried sick about what will happen to you after Andy Stephenson is proven to be a complete FRAUD even to the satisfaction of the incredibly gullible DUmmie suckers.]
But I laid awake until 6:37am (I remember looking at the clock), popped awake an 8, 9, 10 before finally giving up and getting up at 11. I can barely see straight right now, my stomach feels like it has snakes in it, my back is killing me so I can't exercise...and I know for a stone fact that I won't be able to sleep again. Tried a nap an hour or so ago. Came thiiiiiiiis close to dropping of and then popped awake.
[3:11 AM: Worried sick about the backlash when Andys scam is finally proven.
3:12 AM: Will they toss me out of Dummieland?
3:13 AM: Will my speaking engagements be cancelled?
3:14 AM: Maybe I could change my identity.
3:15 AM: DAMN YOU TO HELL, Andy, for suckering me into being your lousy cheerleader!!!
3:16 AM: Is it 3:17 AM yet?]
Any ideas? I've already heard about taking mela-whatever, but that stuff gave my mother splitting headaches when she tried it. I have drastically cut back on caffiene. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I've reached that violently, violently, violently frustrated stage of insomnia where sleep is a guaranteed impossibility, and if a routine like yesterday's (while on no sleep) can't get it done, I am at a total loss.
[Confession is good for the soul. And now let us read the hilarious advice on insomnia cures from your fellow DUmmies, Pitt.]
scotch. start about 3pm. you'll be out by 9
[Thunderbird. Start about 3 PM. Youll be homeless by 9.]
Tried it. I managed to make myself unconscious, but that isn't sleep. Woke up worse off the next day. Tried it again a few days later, and all that happened was I was drunk and wide awake.
[Pied Piper Pitt---The wide awake drunk. Thats what happens when you fall such obvious scams that Andy perpetrates.]
sex?
[Unfortunately Andy can no longer be located.]
Move the clock...for one thing. Looking at that thing with the blinking : all night can be horrifying.
[If Pitt moves his clock all it will mean is that he will have to keep walking over to it every 5 minutes to check to see if he got at least a half hour of sleep.]
yes, sex works remember, only in fundie land is a monogamous partner of the opposite gender who desires to become pregnant is a requirement for "sex."
[Only in DUmmieland does it not matter what gender or species your sex partner is.]
Will: see a doctor. Insomnia is a bitch, although I only get it maybe once or twice a month.
[Pitt needs to see a shrink doctor. See Pitt lying on the shrinks couch? Let us see what the shrink is writing on his note pad: Just plain NUTS!!!]
This sounds like a case for sleeping pills though I ordinarily wouldn't recommend them.
[NOT a good idea. Pitt would be tempted to swallow the whole bottle after the AndyScam blows up in DUmmieland.]
Benadryl. But don't take it every night, as you can become addicted (as per my physician husband).
[Methinks Pitt would become addicted the first night after desperately popping pill after pill of those Bennys.]
Eat lots of turkey! Turkey has natural sleep inducers in it.
[And if that doesnt work, have someone take a frozen turkey and slam it on Pitts head to knock him out.]
My problem is that I have bad physical reactions to anti-histamine stuff. I had raging bad allergies as a kid, and was always loaded up on the stuff. After a few years it just messed me up, and still does whenever I touch it.
[I can sympathize, Pitt. Im allergic to wool so Ive had to cross sheep off my date list. Such are the sacrifices Ive had to make.]
Tonight I will do turkey, warm milk and the tub
[Youre going to do turkey in a tub filled with warm milk, Pitt? You really ARE kinky!]
Yes - I like Tylenol PM myself.
[I once tried to commit suicide by taking a cyanide pill. Unfortunately some sick bastard tampered with the cyanide pill bottle and I took a Tylenol that he inserted instead. Im suing!!!]
empty your mind, grasshopper...
[ be just like your fellow DUmmies, cricket ]
I don't really know any tricks to get to sleep but one thing I discovered is that it makes no sense to just lay there willing yourself to do it - the more you try, the less likely it is that it will happen. So when I couldn't sleep, I'd get up. I'd tidy the house, I'd do laundry, I'd go for a walk, I'd read, I'd write, I'd work. Eventually, I'd get very, very tired and I'd lay down again. If I didn't get to sleep within a reasonable time, I'd get up again.
[Good idea Hey Pitt! My pad needs cleaning and after that you can do my laundry.]
stop doing crystal meth that's what I had to do.
[speed_addiction is that you?]
The back thing is my own fault. I've been beating the shit out of myself on my weight bench, way overdoing it to try and get sleepy. A muscle in my shoulderblade area finally got tired of it and told me to f*ck myself.
[And after the AndyScam scandal explodes, Pitt, your fellow DUmmies will be telling you the same thing as your shoulderblade muscle told you.]
Definitely see a doctor...there might be a physiological reason you're having trouble sleeping.
[Pitts problem is ALL mental.]
Will, I'm not a doctor, but I am going to go ahead and give you medical advice anyway. Your body is telling you to take a break.
[Yes, good advice. Take a break, Pitt, on a Costa Rica getaway with Andy Stephenson. Dont worry about expenses. Andy has $50,000 to blow.]
Otherwise, until you see an internist, a bit of turkey, milk and a warm bath. Then find something boring, yet educational, to read.
[Maybe not educational but Pitts own writings should do the trick.]
A friend of mine who went through a divorce said she would drop her jaw down as you would right before you fall asleep and then force herself to COUNT SHEEP. It actually worked for her.
[It wont work for me. I told you before that Im allergic to wool.]
One word solution... PAMPER!
[One word solution PAMPERS!]
White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint/distand thunderstorms and rain, and it's coma-inducing).
[White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint Pitt speeches, and its coma-inducing).]
Breathe thru your eyes ... Bull Durham
[Breath thru your butt Andy Stephenson.]
Watch some mindless TV.
[Keith Olbermann.]
Ambien is habit forming and every person is different. So telling someone to ignore legitimate and documented side effects and product warnings is not particularly sound advice, wouldn't you agree?
[WARNING: Side effects of Ambien may inlude nausea, diarrhea attacks, dizziness, urges to support left wing loony causes, and the total loss of any ability to discern obvious scams.]
dude...seriously...smoke up. If I need to be asleep, pot is my friend to a nice, happy, and deep sleep.
[Puff the magic dragon down by the sea!]
First of all, sleep is over-rated.
[Sleep? Who needs it!]
You need to start "shutting down" very gradually.
[After the DUmmies finally wake up to the AndyScam, they will be shutting down Pitt very rapidly.]
Try to figure out what caused this abnormal sleep cycle to begin in the first place and address that issue.
[I dont believe that Pitt thinking about how he has become Andy Stephensons lead cheerleader in Dummieland is going to help him get any sleep.]
Go To An Acupuncturist ASAP.
[Perhaps the acupuncturist can anesthetize those brain cells containing all memories about Andy.]
want something natural? try acupuncture- & I know where to get it cheap in the south end
[I dont know about Pitt but Andy certainly would love to be acupunctured in the south end.]
You really should go to a doctor for a sleep evaluation. This may include keeping a diary for a week or so
[May 13: WHAT? WHAT? WHAT will I do when the DUmmies rise up against me when the AndyScam breaks?
May 15: Need to leave the country. PRONTO!
May 16: Quick flight down to Costa Rica.
May 20: Slight gender preference modification but the honeymoon with Andy is just dreamy!]
Cancel your appointments. Don't listen to TV or radio. Turn off your cell phone. Rent some funny movies.
[Flim Flam Man. The Sting.]
You may remember Andy Stephenson from his primary run for Washington Secretary of State. You may also know Andy from his work on Black Box Voting and electronic voting issues. Andy has been a leading advocate for electronic voting reform, and is personally responsible for much of the attention this cause has received.
Andy has been diagnosed with a cancerous tumor on his pancreas, and requires surgery, which will be performed the second week of May. Because of Andy's sacrifice for the cause of electronic voting reform, he does not have health insurance and is unable to cover the costs of this surgery. Diaries :: dragon slayer's diary :: :: Trackback ::
Andy is at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, and they require $25,000 upfront to schedule this surgery. As of this writing, Beth Ferrari has negotiated with Johns Hopkins to schedule the surgery if we can provide $15,000 this Monday, May 2, and $10,000 soon thereafter. The entire surgery is slated to cost $50,000. Beth has done amazing work in negotiating with Johns Hopkins.
If you are able to contribute in any way, please don't hesitate. 1) via USPS: send a check or a money order to: Andy Stephenson P O Box 25624 Seattle, WA 98165-1124 2) via Paypal: (You must have a Paypal account) http://www.paypal.com/ After logging in, choose "Send Money" and enter Andy's email address as the recipient Andy_Stephenson@comcast.net http://jillian.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/1/125012/8506
"Are the Skinners on DU and CU the same person? (I don't visit either site.)"
Different people. CU's Skinner is a stand up guy IMHO
the DUmp's $kimmer is a waste of space.
January 6, Washington, D.C.:
January 20, Washington, D.C.:
April 8, Seattle, Washington (?):
May 7, Columbus, Ohio:
May 8, Columbus, Ohio:
May 9 (?), "checking in" at Johns Hopkins, Baltimore, Maryland (?):
He likes that red shirt, doesn't he?
I've added that to my timeline. I am going to post one more before I go to bed (GMT here)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=146x1952
Nashville conference on election reform/election justice, April 8-10
I am writing to invite all Georgians to join us at a national conference on the 2004 election and the need for election reform that we are hosting in Nashville on April 8-10. We would certainly appreciate as many election reform activists as possible from Georgia attending the conference and helping promote this historic Gathering far and wide. A web-link to the conference is: www.freepress.org/conf.php
We look forward to welcoming grassroots activists from around the country for this national Gathering To Save Our Democracy. The speakers we have assembled are among the most notable in the election reform and election justice movement. The following is a partial list of speakers who have committed to come and speak --we are still working on involving Congresspeople and other prominent activists:
Bernard Ellis, Gathering To Save Our Democracy
Civil rights leaders: Tommie Morton-Young, Sonnye Dixon, Charles Kimbrough
Michael Grant, TN NAACP Statewide coordinator, Voting Rights Act celebrations
Cliff Arnebeck, Moss v. Bush
Bob Fitrakis, Moss v. Bush, www.freepress.org
Leatrice Tolls, Ohio recount volunteer
R.H. Phillips, Ohio election fraud researcher
Joanne Roush, Ohio recount volunteer
Bernard Windham, Election Incident Reporting System
Judith Alter, New Mexico
Paul Lehto, Washington state
John Gideon, votersunite.org
Kathy Dopp, USCountVotes
Jonathan Simon, exit poll researcher
Brad Friedman, BradBlog/Velvet Revolution
Democratic Underground spokesman
David Cobb, Presidential candidate, Green Party
Lara Shaffer, Open Voting Consortium (OVC)
Susan Truitt, CASE-America
Phil Fry, CASE-Ohio
Larry Quick, National Ballot Integrity Project
Teresa Hommel, Wheres The Paper/OVC
Larry English, Information Impact International
David Lytel, Honest Elections Campaign
Clinton Curtis, Whistle-Blower
Andy Stephenson, election audit expert
Emily Levy, election fraud researcher
(and many more to come)
Thanks for digging those up. There is just some missing link here. Won't that be weird if it turns out Undie hoaxed thousands of people into believing he has cancer, without ever uttering the words himself?!
We may yet find him actually saying it, but so far it seems like he may have committed fraud by innuendo and letting others do the lying for him re cancer.
I wish some DUmmie would ask him point-blank: Do you have cancer?
Interesting, I'll Google it.
Glad you could use it. I didn't know you were in the U.K.! Get some rest.
I don't mean to harp on this point, but I think the posts by "KyndCulture" are incorrect, meaning s/he was mistaken. They contradict all the other info we have, like the seminar and DU meetup on the 7th, and the fact that he met with more DUmmies in OH on the 8th.
That's a shirt? I thought it looked more like a Mumu.
This was sent May 6th, by the way,
"Former banned DUer piping in.
It seems to me that we are witnessing probably the biggest money scam on an internet board that I have seen since George took office. Its an amazing thing to watch the Andy Stephenson machine work its wonders on decent people. People not paying their bills (to hell with good credit, says RadFem!); unemployed people emptying their piggy banks; people budgeting each paycheck accordingly. "
I think you're right. I'll take that out of the next draft.
Do go ahead and cut and paste yourself, I just picked up the baton with this from others who'd started it off. It's a work in progress as more info comes in it needs to be changed so it's as definitive as possible at the time of posting. Thanks :-)
THREE BELLS!
THREE BELLS!
THREE BELLS!
("THREE BELLS" was used on old UPI and AP teletype machines when news of utmost importance was coming up--the sinking of the Titanic, the attack on Pearl Harbor, the assassinatiokn of Kennedy, whatnot).)
BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG NEWS COMING UP!
THE MOST IMPORTANT DUMMIE ALERT! YET!
(I have to format it first).
IF YOU'RE ALREADY IN HERE, READING THIS, PLEASE STAY IN HERE, BECAUSE IN A FEW MINUTES, YOU'LL FIND IT WORTHWHILE!
THREE BELLS!
THREE BELLS!
THREE BELLS!
Here's an interesting letter that AndyScam recieved recently from someone at the DUmp.
BTW since AndyScam nailed "principal to the wall...he/she/IT has not returned.
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a letter s/he sent to SKINNER on May 6th.
So the question is What did Skinner know and When did he know it !!
Quote:
Dear Skinner:
Former banned DUer piping in.
It seems to me that we are witnessing probably the biggest money scam on an internet board that I have seen since George took office. Its an amazing thing to watch the Andy Stephenson machine work its wonders on decent people. People not paying their bills (to hell with good credit, says RadFem!); unemployed people emptying their piggy banks; people budgeting each paycheck accordingly.
I read DU for the LBN and follow some of the soap operas for my personal amusement. And the Bev and Andy soap operas have truly been interesting, to say the least.
But this $50K fundraiser? Astonishing.
There are so many versions of what is happening with Johns Hopkins and with Andys illness specifically. Its amazing that a guy who was in the hospital and then home-ridden from sickness in February/early March
is doing so well without any treatment that he can travel to Nashville to give seminars on election fraud. That he can deal with TV appearances. That he can stop off in Ohio to attend yet another seminar.
But lets talk about Johns Hopkins. Why? Because your board is being used to collect god knows how much money. Is it legitimate? Maybe. Maybe Andy Stephenson, who was scheduled to get the surgery in Washington (insurance or not
) in March
. really is okay to wait a couple of months more with a deathly cancer growing inside him. Maybe the issue with his pancreatitis just suddenly subsided for him to wait another couple of months....
Back to JH:
First the story was.. Andy was to have surgery on Tues, May 3rd, and they needed half the money. Okay. Feasible. And the liberal community delivered.
If you check with JH, you will find that this surgery costs about $31K. Okay, but the initial story was that the surgery was $25K, and the other $25K was for after-care. Feasible. Kind of.
First the story was
. Andy doesnt have insurance, we need half the payment now ($25K). Now the story is
the hospital didnt know he didnt have insurance
. So now we need all the money. Wait a second! If they thought Andy had insurance, insurance does not pre-pay
they give clearance
. And the hospital would not schedule a surgery without proof of payment.
Well, wait a second. Now we are told that the ingenious people who got Andy into surgery LIED to the hospital about him having insurance, and, lucky break that it was
the hospital scheduled the surgery without consulting the financial office. Whoa. Amazing turn of luck
that a doctor just didnt even check to see that he would get paid before scheduling.
Oh, about scheduling the surgery. Doctors dont schedule surgeries for people they have not tested and examined. As far as the story goes, Andy has never met with this doctor. Yet, somehow
.the doctor had his surgery scheduled for May 3rd
and now I forget what day it is scheduled for. (Amazing that there was no update from the money collectors about poor Andy having to change his surgery date from May 3rd to whatever it is now. Amazing. I mean.. there was a major charge to get the $25K to pay JK on Monday, May 2nd for the May 3rd surgery
. That money was collected
. But no update as to why Andy didnt go to JH. And wouldnt he have flown to JH from Washington over the weekend when everyone was collecting money?
Now the story is.
.. oh, the surgery was scheduled for June 2nd, but the doctor looked at Andys records and because HE IS GONNA DIE
.they moved it up. Interesting that this important persuasive fact wasnt given back when they needed the $25K overnight. Amazing. I might have even donated if a doctor said we cant wait. Oh, which reminds me, doctors dont diagnose and schedule treatments based on reading other doctors notes and records. Just a minor detail.
Oh, and there is the fact that JH has a charity department, where people send money ADDRESSED to JH in the care of X patient. Why is all the money going directly to Andy? Seems like if I had a plea for my life asking regular people for MONEY, I would from the get-go make them SECURE in the fact that the money was going directly for the costs involved for my life-saving surgery. Oh, I forgot, flyarm went out on a limb and LIED to JH.
The story just gets more and more convoluted as the days go by.
There is another issue
which is
HOW MUCH HAVE THEY COLLECTED? Youve got Malloy and Hartmann pimping for this. Will Pitt too. And of course all these people collecting pennies from their couch cushions.
I remember when this first came up on DU
and someone had the gall to ask for some sort of proof/medical record of the illness. That person got flamed into oblivion
. With the typical freeper approach: You must hate America! If we dont save Andy, America will die!!! But, Andy, good soul that he is
said he would scan some documentation and get it posted a little later today. That never happened. I looked for it. Hey, I dig the details of a soap opera. And no proof has been offered. What has been offered, however, is a constant and unrelenting stream of stories that change by the day
. With a few people really pushing the emotional buttons of people. Thats what scam artists do.
Skinner, Yeah, I was banned, But I respect you and DU and the role that it has played for the liberal community. But, dude, I think you are getting burned, big time.
I bet they have collected over $100,000....
... Hasn't Andy let 3.5 months go by without treatment????
I love the new thread by KarlRSchneider
who is insuring donations up to $20
in case people are afraid this is a scam. Hows about the money collectors just scan and post some actual JH documentation on this???? If all of this is true
they are putting all of this in writing. Sure, Andy deserves privacy, is what the mods seem to conclude on your board. Hell, no, he doesnt. God knows what is going on. Well, God and the money collectors, that is.
This is a pathetic thing to watch happen.
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Pathetic...yes. Scamming people...even DUmmies for this kind of scratch does severe harm to legit fundraising efforts for people who are really sick and in need of help.
Watching the DUmp go into spin/damage control...Comedy writers couldn't write stuff THIS funny.
Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Sun May-15-05 04:58 PMResponse to Reply #7
10. JH Has the money...
The surgery is paid for...just awaiting my date with the knife. I might add if you had been here just a couple of days ago...all doubt was dispelled in regards to my condition.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3658627
andy speaks again
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