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I Cannot Support the Troops, An open letter to all active duty U.S. Military personal
New Jersey Indymedia ^ | 06 MAR 05 | Lloyd Hart (dadapop.com)

Posted on 04/02/2005 8:22:24 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

I Cannot Support the Troops.
by Lloyd Hart

Email: dadapop@dadapop.com
06 Mar 2005

An open letter to all active duty U.S. Military personal.

By Lloyd Hart

Because, to support the troops I would have to support war criminals. Every soldier in Iraq and throughout the U.S. military infrastructure that continues to follow orders that support the invasion and the continued occupation of Iraq are directly or indirectly complicit in a war crime. The members of the U.S. military have had more than enough time to study the illegality of the actions that they are involved in, in Iraq. They cannot plead ignorance of the law nor of any of the criminal actions committed by superior officers or for that matter those of the Commander in Chief who set this act of genocide, this war crime in motion.

In case you are a soldier who is reading this and is unaware of the International War Crime you are committing, it is very clear in international law that I might add the U.S. helped to write and has officially endorsed, that no nation may invade another nation without clear provocation. In the case of Iraq there was absolutely no provocation, and no threat whatsoever to the United States of America being posed by an already destroyed and sanction weakened nation that could not even defend itself let alone launch an attack on the United States of America.

In your individual case, the Nuremberg trials after World War II made it very clear that you could no longer use the excuse that you were just following orders and therefore attempt to shuffle the total responsibility up the ranks. In other words you the soldier made the act of genocide, the war crime you are committing in Iraq possible by following the order without question that came down from the commander in chief, the president of the United States. More clearly, it is you the soldier who has enabled your government to go to war for an obviously corrupt reason, oil.

It is you the soldier that is ultimately responsible for following orders with the obvious criminal intent of the commander-in-chief, the president of the United States displayed in broad daylight for all see even prior to the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Even when you hold up weapons of mass destruction as the reason the U.S. opted to use the U.S. National Security Strategy of pre-emption, the invasion and continued occupation of Iraq are still international war crimes for the simple fact that Iraq did nothing against the U.S. prior to its invasion by the U.S. that could justify in international law a preemptive defensive military invasion. In fact pre-emption, the national security strategy put forth by the Bush regime prior to the invasion of Iraq and put against the backdrop of international law is an illegal strategy.

Even when you hold up the new reason for the illegal invasion and continued occupation of Iraq, democracy? There is nothing stated in international law that gives the right to the United States of America or any nation for that matter, that allows for the export of the political system in America or that of any nation to another nation by a military force. So if you as a soldier are still attempting to justify your war crime by convincing yourself you're bringing Liberty to the people of Iraq I beseech you to ask the family members of the hundred thousand Iraqi people you have helped to murder in an international war crime whether or not they feel liberated.

I realize that it is difficult for anyone to admit complicity in such horrific events, to take responsibility for one's own actions in a war crime that you may believe did not begin or originate with you but taking responsibility upon oneself is the cornerstone upon which peaceful human behavior is built. The overwhelming majority of a human being's time on Earth is spent conducting peaceful activities with the intent of causing no harm. This signifies the truest identity of a human being. What you are doing in Iraq is the exact opposite and what you are doing is punishable by law.

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To: Doctor Raoul

JP II died so this jerk gets one day with out me popping off.


21 posted on 04/02/2005 8:36:41 PM PST by UB355
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To: Doctor Raoul
The members of the U.S. military have had more than enough time to study the illegality of the actions that they are involved in, in Iraq. They cannot plead ignorance of the law nor of any of the criminal actions committed by superior officers or for that matter those of the Commander in Chief who set this act of genocide, this war crime in motion.

So, he must hate the UN too? Doesn't he like anyone but Saddam Hussein? All those resolutions meant nothing to him? Terms of surrender are irrelevant?

Who is this ignorant loser?

22 posted on 04/02/2005 8:37:41 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Anyone who begins a dissertation on international war crimes with the word "Because" does not have the brain power to warrant my attention. I think it was best I stopped reading after the first (so called) sentence. There's only one thing worse than a loser-jerk, and that's a loser-jerk who is grammatically illiterate! (There! now I've used up all my big words for today:)
23 posted on 04/02/2005 8:37:56 PM PST by blu (What a trifecta, a Kennedy a Kerry and a Klansman. Yup KKK (ProudVet77))
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To: Doctor Raoul
I'm active-duty and Lloyd can STUFF IT.

What an irrelevant fool.

24 posted on 04/02/2005 8:40:15 PM PST by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: drt1
Should I know who Lloyd Hart is? Should I care what he says? No and no.

You beat me to it. This guy is no different from any of the thousands of mindless clone/drones churned out by our "universities" that are poisoning our national life.

They are of interest in the same way that a fungus disease would be of interest to an orchardist- - - how can it be eradicated?

You sure aren't interested in its opinions.

25 posted on 04/02/2005 8:40:58 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Doctor Raoul
Mr. Lloyd Hart,

My son, who is in the Air Force and has taken part in the Iraqi war, has committed no crime and you insult & degrade him by suggesting he has.

I have never heard of you before but would be glad to give you a slap up the side of the head if you would please come and see me.

Sincerely,
RightWinger

26 posted on 04/02/2005 8:41:28 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: Doctor Raoul
LOL

What a load !!!

27 posted on 04/02/2005 8:41:36 PM PST by Deetes (Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick)
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To: drt1
Okay, we're Freepers, we get it. But everything isn't related to Terri Schiavo.

There are a lot of us who just dropped to the FR sidelines during this tragedy.

Regardless of what we thought about her case, we didn't jump in our cars, drive to Florida and get ourselves arrested trying to give her water. All of the phone calls, letters and e-mails had no effect. Nothing we did or could have done had any effect.

If you want to discuss her, there are several active threads still running, knock yourself out.

28 posted on 04/02/2005 8:42:32 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

John F'n Kerry, do you have a new nom de plume?


29 posted on 04/02/2005 8:43:02 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I'd argue that the author's reason for not supporting the troops is much simpler. He hates them. He probably hates America and he probably hates everyone that doesn't think like him.


30 posted on 04/02/2005 8:43:31 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: taxesareforever

Too bad we can't gather them all up and slow boat them to Iraq to see the situation for themselves though


31 posted on 04/02/2005 8:46:33 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Some kid home on leave probably laid wood to his girlfriend.

He's mad because she wouldn't even consider bedding him after the fact.

32 posted on 04/02/2005 8:48:22 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: blu

Lloyd appears to be another one of those pinhead Lefties who thinks liberty and freedom just happen. This clown is just showing off his arrogance, stupidity and ignorance of how life works. Mom always said, "Don't mock the afflicted."


33 posted on 04/02/2005 8:49:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (There's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't be a moron.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You have to accept his premise in order to argue with him. Not accepting his premise makes it easy.


34 posted on 04/02/2005 8:53:12 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: pierrem15
An open letter to American Troops:

Occasionally you will read or hear about comments on the War in Iraq which are profoundly stupid. A case in point was written by Lloyd Hart entitled "I Cannot Support the Troops."

There are only two defects with his letter. He is a political bigot who wants the government of the US to fall and be replaced by a socialist one. And he is profoundly ignorant of international law and the Law of War in particular.

If he was any kind of scholar, he would recognize that the reasons and actions of the President and Congress are nearly identical today, as they were in 1805, when Congress authorized the President to go after the Barbary Pirates.

But Mr. Hart is an uneducated fool. So disregard his letter.

Do your job well, as you already have. Stay safe. Return as soon as you can.

Sincerely,

John Armor, Esq. cc. Lloyd Hart

35 posted on 04/02/2005 8:57:55 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Is this POS traitor still wasting American oxygen?


36 posted on 04/02/2005 9:03:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: pacpam

I wonder what the difference is between an "international" war crime and your everday war crime. This Hart guy is a nut.


37 posted on 04/02/2005 9:07:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (There's nothing written in the Constitution that says you can't be a moron.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Hey Lloyd! This Gramma could whip your sorry little be-hind around the block a couple of times.

Please remove yourself from my planet.


38 posted on 04/02/2005 9:10:04 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: taxesareforever

No. But it is a crime to incite trops to disobey their commanders and/or to desert.


39 posted on 04/02/2005 9:15:29 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Yes daddy.


40 posted on 04/02/2005 9:40:23 PM PST by drt1
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