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David Banach indicted under USA PATRTIOT ACT
Global News Matrix ^ | March 24, 2005 | MatrixMetaphore

Posted on 03/24/2005 8:08:38 AM PST by MatrixMetaphore

March 24, 2005 -- A New Jersey man accused of pointing a laser at an airplane, temporarily blinding the pilot and co-pilot, was indicted yesterday under an anti-terror law.

David Banach also was accused of lying to the FBI about the Dec. 29 incident, in which a small passenger jet's windshield and cabin were hit three times by a green laser as the plane readied to land at Teterboro Airport.

The charges in the three-count federal indictment were similar to those filed against Banach in a complaint by the FBI in January. The indictment, handed up by a grand jury in Newark, replaces the FBI complaint.

Banach's lawyer, Gina Mendola-Longarzo, said her client was using the laser to look at stars with his daughter when the plane was hit by the beam.

"I think it's an absolute abuse of prosecutorial discretion to charge my client under the Patriot Act for non-purposeful conduct," Mendola-Longarzo said.

"We take the alleged actions of Mr. Banach very seriously, and we will not condone lying to federal agents," U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie said.

A cluster of reports of lasers striking airplanes received wide attention between Christmas and New Year's Day, and prompted Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta to make changes in how pilots report lasers being beamed at airplanes. He also warned that federal officials will aggressively prosecute those caught shining the bright beams into cockpits.

Banach, 38, of Parsippany, remains free on bond pending arraignment, which has not yet been scheduled, his lawyer said.

He faces up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine on one count of interference with pilots of an aircraft "with reckless disregard for the safety of human life," a provision of the Patriot Act passed following 9/11.


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21 posted on 03/24/2005 8:18:00 AM PST by RushCrush (The FReeper formerly known as Alias)
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To: JohnnyZ

I used to have three green lasers. I now have one. We used to point at stars with them and play with them when it was really foggy out. It never even crossed my mind that you could cause problems with airplanes.

This is total BS - this guy should not be found guilty of anything.

We have come down a BAD path with this so called "PATRIOT" act.


22 posted on 03/24/2005 8:18:08 AM PST by sunnysky
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To: MatrixMetaphore

So, this fella was just having a good time, and deserves no punishment for his behavior?

He jeopardized the safety of the pilots and passengers. He also engaged in an act that terrorists use to triangulate the distance of a plane in order to shoot it down.

The difference between radical Libertarians and Democrats is that the latter have no principles. The former have STUPID principles.


23 posted on 03/24/2005 8:18:33 AM PST by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: ladtx
How do you use a laser to look at the stars?

Don't you know anything, silly? You use it to point at those annoying passenger jets that get in the way.

Seriously, this is bad reporting. Not near enough facts in it to ascertain what the real story is. Is it a case of a schmuck who accidentally waved the laser around, or was he thinking it was cool to flash it at the planes as they flew overhead, and was doing it intentionally? I have to believe that he was doing more that accidental stuff for the feds to stomp on him like this.

24 posted on 03/24/2005 8:18:42 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: MacDorcha

Yes, but is punishable with a far less sentence. FAA and Title 18 of the USC have different guidelines and sentencing.


25 posted on 03/24/2005 8:19:00 AM PST by MatrixMetaphore
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To: MatrixMetaphore
Banach's lawyer, Gina Mendola-Longarzo, said her client was using the laser to look at stars with his daughter when the plane was hit by the beam.

Do I file this lame excuse under "B" for Bravo Sierra, or "U" for Unbelievable Bravo Sierra?

26 posted on 03/24/2005 8:19:30 AM PST by steveegg (Attacking each other is just what the LIEberals and pro-death lawyers want us to do.)
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To: ladtx

You use a laser to POINT to a star not to look at a star. The laser makes a beam of light that you can follow upward. Better than a flashlight.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 8:19:56 AM PST by sunnysky
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To: jdm
Once would have been considered non-purposeful conduct or contact, but the plane's windshield was hit three times. Once = accident; Thrice = hmmmmmm....

Once is hapenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Threee times is conspiracy.
___V. Lenin

So9

28 posted on 03/24/2005 8:20:24 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: MatrixMetaphore
This is an abuse of power. Ugh!

Is it?  How do you know?  What are all the facts of the case?  Can he prove he was with his daughter?  A telescope with a laser sight is a pretty serious piece of equipment--does he actually own one?  What star was he looking at that he was able to hit the eyes of the pilot of an approaching aircraft?  What are the circumstances of the lie the FBI states the suspect told?  Why did a Grand Jury indict the suspect?

Since your a n00b, you should know that most people here expect conclusions based on facts from posters.

29 posted on 03/24/2005 8:21:08 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Servant of the 9

Agreed, SO9...

My thoughts exactly.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 8:21:24 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: MatrixMetaphore

This makes no sense. At night he'd see the planes lights. He'd know it was there. He'd have to deliberately aim at the plane to hit it 3 times.

Plus why lie to Federal investigators about such a simple thing?


31 posted on 03/24/2005 8:21:24 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MatrixMetaphore

He says.


32 posted on 03/24/2005 8:21:32 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: neocon1984
So, this fella was just having a good time, and deserves no punishment for his behavior?

Of course he should be let go, just like when Ahmed and his daughter are out "looking at the stars" some night and accidentally crash an airliner, do you really think that merits punishment? especially under some evil rule like the PATRIOT Act?

33 posted on 03/24/2005 8:22:11 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: antiRepublicrat

And you don't think pointing a laser at a plane is a terrorist act? I guess those guys who flew into the towers were just off course, hmmmm?


34 posted on 03/24/2005 8:22:42 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: sunnysky

I'm just going by the story. It says the laser was used to look at the stars not point at them.


35 posted on 03/24/2005 8:23:36 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: sunnysky

And how do you or I know that he really isn't a loon or a terrorist trying to take down an airliner? That's what investigations are for. Can you not be an American citizen AND a terrorist? Do all terrorists have to be of middle-eastern descent?


36 posted on 03/24/2005 8:25:00 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
"He's an idiot, not a terrorist. This is not what the Act was intended for."
Well, one can look at it as at unintended side benefit: by weeding out at least some dangerous idiots, the Patriot Act turns out to be more useful than originally intended.
BTW, how on earth could one use a laser to look at the stars? A laser is not a vision aid, like a telescope, and to use it as a pointer against clear sky is meaningless, and against hazy or cloudy sky is meaningless as well, for haze or clouds would obscure the stars. And to hit a moving airplane with a laser beam, one would need a good mounting for a laser, probably coupled with a serious rifle scope.
37 posted on 03/24/2005 8:25:40 AM PST by GSlob
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To: MatrixMetaphore

Once is an accident, three times? The guy either as intent or is a total moron with possible disastrous consequences. Throw the jerk in jail for awhile and fine the heck out of him.


38 posted on 03/24/2005 8:25:44 AM PST by ezo4
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To: ladtx
yeah, This was posted yesterday and i had the same question :)

apparently it's useful in the city when there is a lot of gunk in the air to highlight the beam. I'm told this doesn't work to well on a clear night out in the desert.

This guy is an idiot. He broke the law then lied to the feds. I hope he does time. Letting him go is giving a free pass to all the terrorist who will overnight become "star gazers"
39 posted on 03/24/2005 8:26:44 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Pylot
Well here is the first example of the prosecution of a citizen under a law created and allegedly reserved for terrorists.

I would consider putting an airplane in danger of crashing to be terrorism.

40 posted on 03/24/2005 8:26:48 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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