Well, I think we can at least agree on that! I have to bow out now too. Thank you all for your answers. Some were honestly, poignant, some were dumb, the usual insults. But some really eloquent and interesting answers ... on both sides and I thank you all. I am nothing it not a keeper of my word, so I hope this thread continues, but I will not rain on your mission on the other Terri threads. Adieu.
thank you, Hildy.