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Judge Whittemore places Schindler family and attorney in "Catch-22" position
world mag ^ | Matt French

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:34:20 PM PST by repinwi

Judge Whittemore in court this afternoon requested of Schindler attorney David Gibbs a response to a brief by Schiavo attorney Felos questioning the constitutionality of legislation passed last night by U.S. Congress and signed by President Bush.

Acknowledging that Terri’s life hangs in the balance, Judge Whittemore said to Gibbs that he acknowledged the “catch-22” he was being placed in, but he would like Gibbs to respond to the Felos brief before giving his ruling. Whittemore offered U.S. attorney Zimmerman the opportunity to join Gibbs in defending the constitutionality of the congressional action, but refused to require the justice department to defend the legislation.

The "catch-22," of course, is that while Gibbs must respond quickly because of the threat of death Terri faces, he must develop a cogent argument. Making Gibbs's job harder yet, Whittemore indicated that he would rule in the absence of a response at some point anyway.

Gibbs's arguments for a “de novo” (brand new) review in accord with congressional legislation hinge upon Judge Whittemore first rejecting the Felos brief questioning the constitutionality of this morning's congressional action.

(Excerpt) Read more at timbayly.worldmagblog.com ...


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KEYWORDS: catch22; felos; greer; judgewhittemore; redner; schiavo; schiavos; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Petronski

< Because he is a Clinton appointee. >

...and an a$$hole, it appears.


21 posted on 03/21/2005 6:46:39 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: repinwi; Brad's Gramma

thanks for posting repini; and for the ping, BG.


22 posted on 03/21/2005 6:47:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MinuteGal

They could put a tube down her nose if they needed a quickie.


23 posted on 03/21/2005 6:48:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: freedomcrusader

Anybody out there who still has respect for our system of justice?


24 posted on 03/21/2005 6:48:39 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: repinwi

If I were Bill Clinton, I would be on the phone with this judge urging him to choose to help this woman and the people who love her.


25 posted on 03/21/2005 6:49:16 PM PST by petitfour
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To: repinwi
Judge Whittemore refused to grant immediate injunctive relief and warned media and attorneys that he would file electronically without warning.

I'm not a lawyer so what does this mean? He's going to put his findings out on a website in the middle of the night with no warning? I'm confused.

26 posted on 03/21/2005 6:49:53 PM PST by katnip (I'll hear the appeal at 3pm, but in the meantime, go ahead with the execution - judge whittmore)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

27 posted on 03/21/2005 6:50:28 PM PST by XR7
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To: syriacus
asking why Michael is so anxious to end the "unhappiness" of a woman who he says can't think and can't feel anything.

Also, if she can feel no pain and dying of starvation is as wonderful as he has described... why does Terri need morphine?

28 posted on 03/21/2005 6:50:32 PM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Can someone tell me why this judge doesn't order the feeding tube reinserted as this is sorted out?

Or at least hydration and glucose through an IV which can be done almost instantly.
29 posted on 03/21/2005 6:50:40 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: repinwi; All

Yes, it is interesting - but if they would write it in plain English it would be helpful.

However, when the left wants to confuse the public they use legalese primarily because THEY KNOW WE WON'T UNDERSTAND!!

Any Constitutional lawyer who can help us ..???


30 posted on 03/21/2005 6:50:41 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: repinwi

Adversarial questioning is not necessarily bad. It forces the lawyer to put forth and defend his best arguments.

But overall it appears to be a sham.


31 posted on 03/21/2005 6:51:19 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: XR7

The Democratic party will now and forever be known as the party of death. Whenever the letter (d) appears next to a Democratic politicians name, it stands for death.


32 posted on 03/21/2005 6:51:27 PM PST by A6M3
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To: MinuteGal
"I think he hasn't ordered the tube re-inserted because he's not going to rule in her favor. He knows that a feeding tube isn't something that can be constantly screwed in and out like a light bulb. Insertion is like a mini-operation, particularly if the receiving "hole" in the body is closing up as the hours tick away."

Actually, the feeding tube itself, or at least a nasogastric or orogastric feeding tube could be inserted in less than 5 minutes...medically, it's not a big deal.

My question is, since they are not feeding her via the feeding tube, are they offering her water and food orally? To not do so is criminal.

33 posted on 03/21/2005 6:51:29 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Well, I can't imagine Gibbs was blindsided by such a request, he knows he would be asked to back up a constitutionality argument, and he's had at least since the Senate passed the bill to know what it said.

May it be from God's mouth to Gibbs' keyboard.


34 posted on 03/21/2005 6:51:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: repinwi
"Here is your medical ethics homework assignment...the result of which will decide whether the patient whose name is place inside a sealed envelope will live or die...write a legal brief to the court summarizing the reasons why your client should continue to live...with each passing minute your client draws nearer to their last breath...no parties tonight I expect..."


35 posted on 03/21/2005 6:51:31 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: technomage
The judge rather cleverly put the burden for delay back on the parents' attorney. Considering this legislation was passed about 12 hours before, requiring the attorney to brief the constitutionality while the TRO hangs in the balance is abusive. Plus the judge was saying he will rule eventually anyway, so don't get your brief in soon enough and here will be the ruling saying it is unconstitutional, in part because you never answered. But you suffered delay in the meantime anyway. And if you get a brief in within a few hours, you further delay the judge while he reads and dismisses the arguments in your new brief.

Can't say it enough, playing with time like this is inappropriate under the circumstances. If Terry is going to die, I almost wish it happens while this judge delays so that his insensitivity is displayed to all the world. i apologize for the thought, but he should have issued an order this morning, either way. He knows one side or another needs to appeal, and she's dying in the meantime.

36 posted on 03/21/2005 6:52:21 PM PST by Williams
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To: MinuteGal

This question is not designed to provoke argument, but rather your opinion which I frequently read on this forum. Our legal decisions are based on precidents (sp). What if all previous legal decisions in similar situations end up in a ruling against Teri. Would you at this point advocate judicial activism?


37 posted on 03/21/2005 6:52:35 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: PilloryHillary

Saw a pix of the Judge today. He even resembles the Clintoon.


38 posted on 03/21/2005 6:52:52 PM PST by miele man
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To: ladyjane

if you have been reading these threads, there are alot of freepers (and they are not trolls) who think that this case should not be reviewed and she should be starved to death.


39 posted on 03/21/2005 6:53:24 PM PST by oceanview
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To: GOP_Proud
Well, from reading through these threads I found this background on the judge (ala FR) and found his rulings very well thought out. Not that I am a fan of Clinton by no means.

Here, take a look see and tell me what you think. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1367580/posts

"Longtime colleagues describe Whittemore, 52, as thoughtful, fair and down-to-earth, not the least flamboyant.

"He is a highly, highly regarded judge," said Tampa lawyer John Fitzgibbons. "He is highly intelligent and has just an excellent judicious temperament. He will allow all sides to state their position, to have their say."

Whittemore, appointed to the federal bench by President Clinton in 1999, is not known to display any political leanings.

Fitzgibbons said those who have criticized previous rulings in the case will not have an easy time accusing Whittemore of bias.

"He will call it as he sees it. You could not ask for a better or fairer referee," the lawyer said. "Everyone will be treated very fairly. It's almost a shame that there are not cameras allowed in federal courts. It would be such an incredibly fair proceeding it would be good for the country to see."

One can only hope and pray that this is true.

40 posted on 03/21/2005 6:53:24 PM PST by repinwi
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