Starvation is not painful!
Somebody ought to pull Sean Morrisons Feeding Tube!
Posted on 03/20/2005 3:00:40 PM PST by traderrob6
The NYT has spoken, let all discussion of the matter desist.
The newspaper that was most outraged over photos of Iraqi terrorist suspects being mistreated by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison said Sunday that the two week-long starvation-execution of Terri Schiavo will cause her "little discomfort." [snip]
The Times also cites Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatrics and palliative care at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, who insists that starvation victims "generally slip into a peaceful coma."[snip] (pretty definitive......or is it)
Wesley J. Smith, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and an attorney and consultant for the International Task Force on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide, says that in fact, for a conscious patient like Terri Schiavo, death by starvation will be fraught with agony. [snip]
"They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water. Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death."[snip]
If the Old Grey Lady is correct, we certainly don't need to go through all the trouble and expense of lethal injections. Just remove all food and water from the condemned, "they will experience little discomfort and in a couple of weeks they will just gently slip into a coma and pass on."
Miami Herald
THE FINAL DAYS
Death from dehydration common, placid, doctors say
Removing a feeding tube from a patient who has no hope of recovery is a common practice that leads to a peaceful death, doctors say.
BY JACOB GOLDSTEIN
jgoldstein@herald.com
Unless an order is given to reinsert her feeding tube, Terri Schiavo will soon begin a peaceful decline that will lead to death in about two weeks, experts said Saturday.
She won't be aware of thirst, hunger or suffering, because the parts of her brain that create awareness were destroyed 15 years ago, according to the doctors who have examined her.
Schiavo will die of dehydration -- a common end for patients with no reasonable hope of recovery, and one widely believed to be essentially painless.
Patients who, unlike Schiavo, are conscious to begin with, lose consciousness about a week after the tube is removed. The body's systems fail in the following days, leading to ''a sort of peaceful slipping away,'' said Dr. John Kuluz, a University of Miami expert in pediatric critical care and brain injury.
Removing feeding tubes ''happens all the time,'' said Dr. Douglas Katz, a Boston University neurologist. ``It's a common procedure in people who have hopeless medical conditions, among them people in vegetative states.''
According to doctors, Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state -- a condition of unconsciousness that persists endlessly, even though basic brain functions continue to cycle the body through periods of sleep and waking.
NO 'SENSE' OF PAIN
Vegetative patients can feel pain in a primitive sense -- reflexes might make them flinch when poked, for example. But they are not conscious of feeling pain or discomfort.
''Even though some of the pathways for sensation are intact up to a point, the part of the brain that processes information about sensation and feeling is not working,'' Katz said. ``A person who is unconscious or in a vegetative state cannot have any sense of discomfort or suffering.''
Even for patients who are conscious to begin with, death by dehydration appears peaceful, according to a study published in 2003 in the New England Journal of Medicine.
A survey of 107 hospice nurses who cared for terminally ill patients who chose to die by refusing food and water found that ``most deaths . . . were peaceful, with little suffering.''
The study asked nurses to rate the patients' deaths on a zero-to-nine scale, with nine being the best possible death; the median rating was eight.
Christine Exposito, a registered nurse at HospiceCare of Southeast Florida, said in about half of the cases in which one of her terminal patients loses the ability to survive without a feeding tube, the patient's family will allow the patient to die of dehydration.
ORGAN FAILURE
Dehydration is a gradual process. The body loses water through urination, perspiration and breath. After several days, the volume of blood in the body begins to decline because of the lack of water.
The concentration of toxins and carbon dioxide in the blood increases. All of the body's systems gradually become weaker.
After about 10 days, organ systems begin to fail. The kidneys and liver may stop filtering toxins from the blood. The muscles that drive breathing begin to fail.
Barring an intervention, Terri Schiavo will die in about two weeks when her heart, deprived of oxygen, stops beating.
Using the New York Slimes mentality, the worst thing they could do would be to snap pictures of her with underwear on her head. But starving and dehydration gets the thumbs up from them.
Let's try it on them first ....
What a ghastly group they are.
Apparently nobody at the New York Times has ever experienced hunger or thirst in their entire lives.
If murderers on death row were starved to death, the ACLU and its minions would be rioting in the streets quicker than you could say "cruel and unusual punishment".
Democrats, 1821: "The Negro is sub-human and should be treated as an animal"
Democrats, 1972: "Pro-Choice - Will Kill for Sex"
Democrats, 2005: "We'll starve Terri to death by Easter Sunday"
I thought the reason for pulling the plug was to "end her suffering!"
If starving her to death won't cause her to suffer, neither will keeping her alive.
Maybe we could link up remote video cameras to FR so we could have a 10 minute update on the status of the owners, managers, editors and writers at the NYT who've published this stuff.
Think of how beneficial this would be ~ first of all their families could watch from the convenience of their homes, but even more important, we would all become highly informed of what this process is really like. Then, too, it has distinct benefit to Christians and Conservatives because it would dispose of so terribly many mind-numbed, knee-jerk, robot-like Liberal apparatchiks.
Yessir, sign me up to watch this one!~ got a petition yet?
Let's start an on-line petition.
Those are so useful anyway!
But yes, I believe we should INSIST that the Editors of the NY Slimes should teach us the peaceful nature of death by starvation and dehydration by performing it for us - perhaps on CBS.
;-)
It's the only hope we have of keeping them honest.
Starvation is not painful!
Somebody ought to pull Sean Morrisons Feeding Tube!
Let's choose starving and dehydration as the preferred method of execution for Sadam Hussein. Surely they will not object to his peaceful slipping away.
(If murderers on death row were starved to death, the ACLU and its minions would be rioting in the streets quicker than you could say "cruel and unusual punishment".)
Let someone try to starve to death their pet, and watch what happens.
"Of course, if the Times is right - and starvation causes "little discomfort" - the paper may have uncovered a valuable new tool in the war on terror."
Hell yeah.
The NYT said that Stalin didn't starve 20 million people to death.
He did.
They covered up his mass murder by starvation.
The NYT loves death by starvation.
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