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Cool Intellect: Debate Regarding Terri Schiavo [blogger/newsletter]
South Boston Phoenix | 3-19-2005 | Arthur March

Posted on 03/19/2005 8:01:43 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

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1 posted on 03/19/2005 8:01:43 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

well done mark.


2 posted on 03/19/2005 8:04:11 PM PST by bitt (RUSSERT: So they should sign Form 180s for themselves as well? KERRY: You Bet)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Makes some very good points.


3 posted on 03/19/2005 8:08:48 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: bitt

Thank you! I admire a certain man named Mark but he ain't me. =]


4 posted on 03/19/2005 8:09:19 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Judge should have stipluated that Michael personally remove the feeding tube.


5 posted on 03/19/2005 8:13:04 PM PST by stylin19a (I will become a Democrat on my deathbed....better one of them dies than a good Republican)
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"Judge should have stipluated that Michael personally remove the feeding tube."

Interesting idea. From what I've read, however, Michael might not have been very gentle about how he removed it. FReegards....


6 posted on 03/19/2005 8:14:44 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the post.


7 posted on 03/19/2005 8:16:44 PM PST by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: bitt

There are some serious problems here that need to be addressed. Michael Schiavo abandoned his wife, Terri, many years ago to cohabit with another woman, and to produce illegitimite children. He has a clear confict of interest here, and if he were a moral man, he would have divorced Terri, but he has not, for he is too greedy to do so.

Schiavo's husband Michael lambasted lawmakers for getting involved.

"For Congress to come in and interfere in a personal family matter is outrageous. They can do it to me, they'll do it to every person in this country. And they should be ashamed of themselves. Leave my wife alone. Leave me alone. Take care of your own families," he said on CBS' Saturday Early Show.

He says to leave his "wife' alone. Which wife? The mother of his children or the one that he wasted the rehab money for ? Sure he wants this left alone! He wants to murder Terri. I object to the newspapers calling Terri a vegetable. How many vegetables do you see that open and close their eyes and smile? Michael Schivao is not a husband in any sense of the word. He is just one more would be murderer, like Scott Peterson. If the wife does not fit their ideas, then murder her.

Yes, this case may set a precedent, and there may be those in the future trying to kill anyone of us in the same manner.

Death is our last enemy.


8 posted on 03/19/2005 8:22:56 PM PST by tessalu
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To: Jaded

Glad I could help.

FReegards....


9 posted on 03/19/2005 8:26:39 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: Jaded

I would not be so upset if Terri had left something in writing and we would know this was truly her wish, but Michael's credibility is just not there and that is what is bothering me. Too many things do not add up and they actually add up more to "foul play". Without the written consent of Terri or any other person in this situation, this is a perfect way for someone who wants to kill their spouse to get away with murder, just by simply stating that "they told me that". Word has it that MS is an abusive, controlling person and that Terri wanted a divorce....this is too much to just let go...all the parents of Terri are asking for is that someone else look at this...and test Terri etc....the fact that Michael won't allow this without court action is alone a reason to be highly suspicious of his motives!


10 posted on 03/19/2005 8:29:23 PM PST by LegalEagle61
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To: tessalu

' He says to leave his "wife' alone. Which wife? '

The technical, legalese wife-- not the one he snuggles up with every night. Good point.


11 posted on 03/19/2005 8:29:34 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

"Makes some very good points."

I appreciate that. FReegards....


12 posted on 03/19/2005 8:31:55 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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"But how can they be prosecuted if the evidence is cremated? What you say doesn't help Michael's cause. It helps the parents'. They're all but daring him to sue them or file charges. But if he cremates her body, then he destroys the evidence to ever prosecute them. Why would he do that?" Uh, ends any possible discovery of his earlier abuse of her or any possible abuse currently, is one good guess. As to Boortz, he's got the perspective he feels comfortable with and nothing anyone can show him would cause him to reconsider because he might change his mind ... Boortz is a track follower, not a free thinker.
13 posted on 03/19/2005 8:32:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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"Uh, ends any possible discovery of his earlier abuse of her or any possible abuse currently, is one good guess." [re: cremation]

Only logical conclusion I can come up with.

Then there's the question of why he didn't try to save his wife with CPR. Why not? He stood there on some kind of vulture-like death watch? Or he didn't notice that CPR would help?


14 posted on 03/19/2005 8:43:41 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: LegalEagle61
A scrap of paper with sloppy scribbling and a signature would satisfy me, even if only half the words were legible. Instead, we have to trust this guy AND Judge Greer. Ridiculous.
15 posted on 03/19/2005 8:46:09 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I'm not sure that he had even started nursing school when she collapsed. The bone scans that reveal past trauma are quite telling though.


16 posted on 03/19/2005 8:47:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Regarding him and CPR, I went by the following WND article: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42991 "...collapsed in her home and suffered a 10-minute loss of oxygen due to causes unknown. Her husband of six years, Michael Schiavo, although he reportedly knew CPR did not perform it and his wife suffered severe brain damage which left her badly handicapped."

Also included in link page:

THE 'VAST LIFE-WING CONSPIRACY' AGAINST MICHAEL SCHIAVO [FR Link page]

Trying to get some important links clustered. FReegards....

17 posted on 03/19/2005 8:53:46 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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"Remember, a lot of average Americans like me are Republican and we are not keen on watching a bunch of zealots with their bibles in their hands trying to make an issue out of a brain stem."

You let this one get away.

Here: Everyone has an ultimate authority. Everyone also is born with an innate sense of justice - witness two little kids fighting over a toy. They don't have to be taught that.

Does that ultimate authority find rootage in Scripture, with its commands to avoid murder? Or does it find rootage in the self? If the latter, then self is god, and that is the origin of the "How much will it cost?" argment.

Translation: What's in it for me? How will I be affected?

Implication: There is no God, there's only this life. Take away a little something from me and I'll never get it back.

So, who do YOU want caring for you after your car accident? Zealots with Bibles in their hands or self-serving little god-haters?

18 posted on 03/20/2005 3:02:58 AM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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You have a special way of thinking. Each of those last three lines make a lot of sense. [I'll have to mull over your first lines. No coffee yet.]

You are right that I can't think of a better doctor to trust than a 'Bible thumper', with the possible exception of various atheists who attempt to compete with Christians in the ethics department. But even competitive atheists are spurred by what? The Bible. They will never admit it, but in another culture they would more likely be spurred by other forces.

And, what really galls those atheists [and agnostics, or soltcore Christians] is they see some phony Christians. It was a big problem in fast food restaurants I'd worked in. Church goers come in and trash the place like few others, wearing their Sunday best.

Atheists and their allies gleefully point moments like that out, but that competitive drive they feel to "outdo" Christians ethically is one of our secret blessings. The more of an example we set, the better some of them get.

They don't realise that we're leading, and they're following. Other cultures would lead them in other directions. I know that as a leader-by-example, I have failed during a certain time in my life. But that doesn't mean I can't lead in some ways today. FReegards....


19 posted on 03/20/2005 4:24:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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Thank you for this post. We are rapidly loosing out right to life as well as freedom. The courts are destroying the Constitution. Thank you again, excellent work.
20 posted on 03/20/2005 10:16:34 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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