[crushkerry]

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[NCSteve]

This smacks of a bunch of socialists calling each other names and playing a game of who does the best job of pretending not to be a socialist. Anyone proposing anything other than the immediate phase-out of Social Security is un-conservative anyway which makes all of this Republican-baiting a farce.

Regardless of whether Bush's tinkering or the Democrats' stalling wins the day, the end result is the same: the government confiscates ever more of my earnings to redistribute to someone else. Imagine if all of this ink and effort was directed at eliminating the program altogether.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Gerlach said he is reluctant to back other proposals at this point, such as raising the retirement age, limiting benefits or raising the payroll tax. While each of those proposals would help make the system more solvent, they also would prove vastly unpopular with various interest groups.

Like the people who have to pay the damned taxes!

[vpintheak]

Every day ,more and more, I am thinking the the republicans are evolutionary socialists. Rats might be too, just on a faster clip. But with no one in congress really wanting to make cuts or changes, I am left with that conclusion.