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| February 25, 2005
Posted on 02/25/2005 10:28:40 AM PST by Hildy
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To: KDD
Why don't they let Dr. Hammesfahr treat her? There has been tremendous advances in treating brain injuries since the time of her accident. He has a standing offer that he will treat her for free. How does that sound to you?
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posted on
02/25/2005 5:07:57 PM PST
by
bjs1779
(" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
To: bjs1779
According to Assistant Professor of Neurology at Yale University School of Medicine:
Conclusion The theoretical basis for Hammesfahr's vasodilation treatment for stroke clashes with current knowledge about stroke physiology. In fact, the prevailing current belief is that such treatments should worsen stroke outcome, not improve it. I believe that vasodilation treatment for stroke patients should be done only as part of an approved peer-reviewed protocol that includes informed consent about the treatment's experimental status and possible risks. Because of the potential risk, I doubt that an institutional review board would permit such a study unless animal studies can demonstrate that the treatment is safe and potentially useful.
Ultrasound Monitoring of Stroke Patients
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posted on
02/25/2005 5:20:16 PM PST
by
KDD
To: KDD
The court said they were wrong. They tried to prove it and they lost in court. It is just that simple. I guess they can say anything they want and you can believe it if you choose. Bottom line is that Dr. Hammesfahr beat them with facts. His method is approved by Medicare - "Fully Approved".
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posted on
02/25/2005 5:29:52 PM PST
by
bjs1779
(" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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Connect the Dots ... for Terri
- "When Bucky the Labrador collapsed, she[Terri] performed mouth-to-nose resuscitation on him. He died in her arms."
- She (Terri) once ran into the house crying because she had run over a rabbit. No one could console her. Her father went outside, came back, and said she was mistaken, there was no dead rabbit in the road. When she finally calmed down and left the room, her dad said, "Man, she nailed it."
- "She [Terri] went down my throat about this joke [about Karen Ann Quinlan], that it was inappropriate," [her best friend, Diane] Meyer said. She remembers Terri wondering [the summer before meeting Michael] how the doctors and lawyers possibly could know what Quinlan was feeling or what she would want. "Where there's life," Meyer recalls Schiavo saying, "there's hope."
- In an affidavit... [Michael's girlfriend for six months in 1992, Cyndi] Shook quoted Michael Schiavo as saying: "How the hell do I know what to do with her. We never talked about this when we were married. We were young and this was never talked about."
In late 1992, a jury agrees that Terri should live about 41 additional years, and it awards Michael a Million dollar lawsuit for Terri's rehabilitation. He soon afterwards, stops all physical therapy and rehabilitation, and issues a do-not-resucitate order. - In 1996, Michael asked Jodi Centonze to marry him and she said YES. Michael testified under oath that Jodi is his fiancee. They now have two children together. State law prohibits guardians for the disabled who have significant conflicts of interest.
- In 1998, Michael suddenly recalled that Terri 'wished to die' rather than live with an inconspicuous feeding tube under her clothing. Many disabled people live nearly normal lives with the same kind of feeding tube.
- In 1999, it became legal for the first time to kill Florida's disabled by removing their feeding tubes. Any 'verbal contract' Michael and Terri might have had before 1990 to kill each other this way, would have been murder at that time and thus illegal.
- In 2003, Michael and his lawyer nearly convinced the world that Terri is "PVS" - which by Florida's definition is:
- The absence of voluntary action or cognitive behavior of any kind.
- An inability to communicate or interact purposefully with the environment.
- In 2004, The Pope rules that the disabled MUST be fed, and life-sustaining feeding tubes are NOT medical 'treatment'. Terri, a devout Catholic who spent K-12 in Catholic Schools would CERTAINLY honor the Pope's ruling, and choose to live.
- Question: Do these 2002 pics look like a Permanent Vegetative State?
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From "
Terri Big Eyes" video available at
www.terrisfight.org
Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.
Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...
Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)
Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes
Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)
Doctor: There you go, good.
Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )
Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.
- Mar 29, 2004. Michael makes up a ruse to deny ANY Schindlers from visiting Terri, who has recently developed a bedsore, lost two teeth for unexplained reasons, had two life-threatening vomiting sessions, and only rarely gets bathed. Judge Greer that same week gave the Schindler's a Catch-22: Either PROVE Michael ordered the nursing home to NOT share Terri's medical information, or else no court action or investigation will occur. The nursing home then continues to blackout information to Terri's parents, while Michael forces them to stay physically off-site.
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- Feb 8, 2005: Psychiatric Expert Witness profiles Michael Schiavo [FR discussion]
- Feb 11, 2005: Michael Schiavo's Violence Towards Women Revealed in Depositon
Interviews / Excerpts |
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"
"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> author Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"
"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"
"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"
"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":
"Hardball with Chris Matthews" - Wednesday 10-29-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney for ACLJ) Jay Sekulow and (anti-Terri attorney) Joe Tacopina: "Matthews: I think the human issue here is... her eyes flickering... I think she's ALIVE":
"Larry King Live" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (husband) Michael Schiavo[barf alert]: THEY get money from the right wing ACTIVISTS - "Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die" - [later] King: Would you take one[lie detector test]? - No (Commentary) almost entirely pro-husband -->
"O'Reilly Factor" - Wednesday 11-05-03 --> (former "Vegetative State" patient) Kate Adamson: Being starved to death is EXTREMELY painful "It was SHEER torture!" - took her THREE MONTHS of ACUTE REHAB to snap out
Her website says: We stand behind Terri Schindler!
"The Abrams Report" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney) Pat Anderson and (pro-death attorney) George Felos: "Felos: Michael is a MODEL husband" - Anderson:"Terri got NO REHAB after $award$":
"On the Record with Greta" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and followed by a panel discussion:
"Connor: INDEPENDENTLY investigate the circumstances and allegations...
Gloria Alred: Perhaps the PARENTS SHOULD care for her
"Radio Interview" --> (Michael Schiavo's so-called 1st girlfriend after Terri's so-called 'collapse')
MS: "[Terri] upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault."
GIRLFRIEND: "he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!"
"CBS News Sunday Morning" - Sunday 11-09-03 -->
( Lead-off feature story for this Sunday morning news magazine )
"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 11-17-03 --> (Terri's parents) Mary and Bob Schindler:
( "ACQUIRED CEREBRAL PALSY" ... "she's been literally in PRISON for FOUR years" )
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 01-09-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "We'll GO to the Florida Supreme Court, and if the Governor isn't afforded an opportunity to try this case before a JURY, we'll try to go to the U.S. Supreme Court".
"On the Record with Greta" - Wednesday 01-21-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "...mister Schiavo and mister Felos are TERRIFIED of trying this case before a JURY. ... NO reasonable jury ... would EVER accept this proposition.".
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 02-13-04 --> (Gov.Bush's attorney) Nicole Kerr, (husband's attorney) George Felos, and (WFLA reporter) Sharon Parker:
Kerr: "We think this is a TREMENDOUS victory for Terri Schiavo... this case basically says that we're ENTITLED to take depositions, we're entitled to discovery...".
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To: FL_engineer
Nice pictures FL_engineer. Thanks. Looks like America to me!
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:04:41 PM PST
by
bjs1779
(" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
To: bjs1779; amdgmary
Great FREEP of Mikey's house! Thanks!
I especially liked the one of Mikey's MERCEDES the other day! I wish I could find it!
Mikey was nearly unemployable, and a SPONGE on Terri, living mostly off of her salary. Mikey was alledgedly fired from 6 jobs in two years; In one case after just two weeks.
But now, thanks to Terri's rehabilitation fund, he DRIVES a MERCEDES, lives in what looks like, from the air, a half-million dollar house, and it's complete with a large oval shaped pool!
The oval-shaped pool Terri's REHABILITATION money bought... |
The oval-shaped pool Mikey deserves... |
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Excerpts from last weekend's "The World Over Live" - Interview with Bob Schindler...
Arroyo: "Did you see black and blue marks on Terri? I've read that in several reports."
Schindler: "Yes, prior to her incident, yes."
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Bob S: "A radiologist says that she had broken bones throughout her body,
and he kind of pinpointed to that timeframe in which she had the incident,
and either she was beaten up badly, or hit by a truck. We saw her
the night before she collapsed, and she was fine."
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Arroyo: "Now once Terri was in this condition, there- I read elsewhere where he
attacked- Michael may have attacked your daughter Suzanne. Is that correct?"
Bob S: "He had a tendency to become very violent, yes, and he tried to attack
my daughter Suzanne. We had to really step in and protect her, and she used
to go to bed at night and lock her doors and keep a hammer under her bed. That
she was that frightened."
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Arroyo: Jackie from Washington, you're on The World Over Live, what's your question Jackie?
Jackie: I want to know if anybody has considered having a criminal investigation
of her husband. It seems to me that, if for no other reason, because she was
bruised, and other things that happened? The current wife is in danger, if
this man is bent on this type of thing.
Arroyo: There is also a girlfriend who accused him of stalking in 2001,
correct? either David [Gibbs] or mister Schindler?
Bob.S: Yea, I can answer that... He was... Mr.Gibbs mentioned about this malpractice suit
when Michael Schiavo was asking, actually for 20 million dollars, and recited
his wedding vows to the malpractice jury, and at the same time, he was having
an intimate affair with this girl, her name is Cindy, who surfaced later
and that said Michael Schiavo was stalking her, actually had run her off the
road with her car. And she was afraid to testify in the courts for fear that,
she had since been married, that he would kill her children, quote unquote.
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To: FL_engineer
We'll be at Michael's house tomorrow for a peaceful protest.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:29:29 PM PST
by
amdgmary
(Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
To: Lurking Libertarian
OBJECTIVE FACTS????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This is Hildys little ploy for attention. She doesn't get enough. There are NO objective facts on Hildys thread. You people are sick.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:30:33 PM PST
by
Lovergirl
(A living Will isn't good enough. A Power of Attorney for Health Care leaves NO gray area)
To: ladyjane; All; GeekDejure; Pegita; floriduh voter
>>Starving someone to death is murder. Plain and simple. I'm with you! and MILLIONS of other Americans agree!
If Terri dies, an autopsy would clear up TONS of allegations of abuse (which could prove a physical attack led to her murder), BUT MS has a standing court order, I believe to allow him to IMMEDIATELY cremate her with no autopsy.
The neurologist said she has fluid pushing down on her brain, and a crushed disk in her neck. He's seen thousands of patients with these conditions singularly, but only in ONE case did a patient have BOTH conditions, and that was a strangulation case.
The same medical expert also said Terri most likely does not need the feeding tube.
The patient can clearly swallow, and is able to swallow approximately 2 liters of water per day (the daily amount of saliva generated). Water is one of the most difficult things for people to swallow. It is unlikely that she currently needs the feeding tube. She should be evaluated by an Ear Nose and Throat specialist, and have a new swallowing exam.
One C.n.a. even says she has fed Terri jello.
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To: Lovergirl
You people are sick. Now how can we make friends like that? : )
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:42:08 PM PST
by
bjs1779
(" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
To: FL_engineer
Thank you for your wonderful posts and especially for the signs. God Bless every one of you who has taken the time to there, on behalf of Terri and on behalf of all of us.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:43:41 PM PST
by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
To: bjs1779
Thanks amdgmary. I like to see joy.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:45:13 PM PST
by
bjs1779
(" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
To: KDD; Deo volente; Ohioan from Florida
And Judge Greer(R) just won reelection with nearly 70% of the vote.And those who believed that America could be a free country and should stand up to England were a small minority among the colonists.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:47:49 PM PST
by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
To: bjs1779
Strike the above, it was supposed to go to a different thread.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:48:15 PM PST
by
bjs1779
(" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
To: bjs1779
Suzanne looks joyful in the photo. She's a beautiful lady.
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:48:37 PM PST
by
amdgmary
(Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
To: BykrBayb
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posted on
02/25/2005 6:53:43 PM PST
by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
To: bjs1779
I love that story!
Not only Terri is responsive, But she is developing the HOTS for the hunk LAWYER!!! LOL!!!
Teriffic, we need videos!
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To: FL_engineer
I need you when you have time, please freepmail me.
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posted on
02/25/2005 7:06:32 PM PST
by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
To: Ohioan from Florida
Say, OfF... do you get the distinct impression the ghoul's tag-team on this thread who keep pushing the 'official' GREER/FELOS propaganda, just might work for this lawyer from HELL?
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