Now give me those damn fingerprints, you evil dastard... Oh, by the way, can I search your car?.....
Posted on 02/11/2005 2:28:24 PM PST by FreeMarket1
POLICE ROUTINELY FINGERPRINTING FOR TRAFFIC STOPS
Feb 11, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com
by Michael J. Ross
Just when you thought it was safe to venture out on the road, visit scenic Lake Michigan, and get away from prying eyes in urban centers and corporate environments, the authorities have come up with a new, intrusive twist. Police in Green Bay, Wisconsin, are now fingerprinting anyone that they pull over at a traffic stop -- even for the most minor of traffic violations. This means that, should you be stopped by the Green Bay police for having a malfunctioning brake light, playing your car stereo too loud, or any other offense that would normally receive only a citation, they could record your fingerprint immediately. The rationale (or rationalization) for this new procedure, is that the police claim to be seeing an "increasing use of false or fraudulent identification documents" (i.e., driver's licenses) during the past couple of years. They claim they want to avoid the identity theft problem that they are seeing in Milwaukee, where apparently 13 percent of all traffic violators give a false name to the arresting officer.
However, this explanation could be charged as being equally fraudulent, considering that Green Bay experiences, on average, only five such cases per year. Some residents aren't buying that story either, telling interviewers that the law enforcement authorities are going too far with this new policy, as reported in an undated article appearing on the Web site of WBAY-TV, Northeast Wisconsin's channel 2 news.
Green Bay police counter these objections by pointing out that anyone pulled over has the right to refuse being fingerprinted. But consider what small percentage of the population would want to refuse the "request" of an armed police officer, especially one who is likely about to decide what if any traffic violations to cite the citizens for. In fact, considering how nervous most people are when pulled over by the police, it's easy to imagine that the majority of the people in that situation wouldn't remember that they actually do possess that right (assuming they have heard the facts beforehand), much less exercise their right of refusal (assuming the officer even mentions it to them).
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But what would she know, eh?
My name is Patton - get over it.
Weren't you (they) already dead? ( irealize this small fact would make no difference to the DMV.)
Your experiences continue to highlight why the government cannot be trusted to do anything.
All kidding aside, no policeman is taking my fingerprints unless charges are filed...and that's not a tail light being out.
FMCDH(BITS)
Spent a night in jail in Saint Louis, once - because the secret service was convinced I was a fraud.
Oh, well. Such is the danger of living in a police society.
Considering what can be gleaned from a legitimate Driver's License number, one should refuse.
Sigh. Never happen.
OK...I'm over it. Still doesen't explain your stance on the subject.
You approve of the police demanding by law, more or less, your fingerprints for a traffic violation?
FMCDH(BITS)
Of course I have a birth certificate. The DMV claimed it was forged.
"Who ever said I trust the government? I just want them to leave me the heck alone."
Then why would you have no problem with these nicompoops collecting this data at traffic stops.
If I do the crime, I am prepared to do the time - but I am damn tired of being harassed for what SOME ONE ELSE did.
"Seems only those with a dirty background have anything to fear. "
That's the kind of thinking any authoritarian state encourages in it's subjects.
Especially their stance on the 2nd Amendment.
Where I live if I had to call 911 and wait for a response I and all of my family would be dead and the police would never solve the crime.
Then you're argument is with your state's DMV...Please don't add me and millions of others to a police fingerprinting system because your state DMV are asswholes. What's to say later down the road your fingerprints, or rather someone elses that are just close enough to yours, you get screwed again? What are you willing to do to make sure that doesn't happen...jerk off into a police jar so they can really identify who you are?
This is total BS.
FMCDH(BITS)
Now give me those damn fingerprints, you evil dastard... Oh, by the way, can I search your car?.....
patton is only missing one key ingredient in his understandable stance...that being the LE can use the same information against you, even when they screwed up that investigation. It's not "a long slippery slope", it's a direct violation of the Constitution for God's sake. When will these people ever learn?.....I guess never...my handle says it all....
FMCDH(BITS)NOTHINGNEW
FMCDH(BITS)
People love this stuff. They won't be satisfied until there are routine cavity searches for every petty traffic stop.
That is the truth about it. The police uphold the law (in most cases), and proclaim to "protect". They don't really protect..Most of the time, they follow up on the crime already commited. It's a hard and dangerous job, but I believe we the people could make their jobs a lot easier, except for the marxists in our government of course...ya know what I mean?
FMCDH(BITS)
FMCDH(BITS)
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