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Boxer Busted on Iraq Lie During Condi Confirmation Hearings
www.crushkerry.com (soon to be www.anklebitingpundits.com) ^ | 1/19/05 | www.crushkerry.com (soon to be www.anklebitingpundits.com)

Posted on 01/19/2005 5:36:11 AM PST by crushkerry

The big news today was Michael Moore's favorite Senator Barbara Boxer taking aim at Condi Rice's credibility at today's confirmation hearings. You can go here to read the entire transcript of the exchange. Frankly, these confirmation hearings strike us as a colossal waste of time. Rather than actually question the nominee windbag Senators like Babs go on over the allotted time limit and ask one question. The rest of the time is spent filibustering and hearing themselves bloviate (see especially Biden, Joe).

What was perhaps most infuriating about Boxer's pissy little tirade was that she cited a movie by a hate America lefty called Fog of War as if it were gospel, and had the unmitigated gall to basically call Condi a liar on Iraq. This from a woman who defended Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky matter. True to here nature as nobody's fool, Condi shot back with a wonderful defense of the Iraq war that Boxer, one of the Senate's dimmest bulbs (and that's saying something), probably didn't understand because Condi used words over 2 syllables.

However, in her harangue against everything about President Bush and Iraq, Boxer made a statement that was patently false. Even worse, it's easy to prove as such. And we're not talking about a lie on a little thing either. This is something you have to see, and we're sure won't be reported in the mainstream press, but hey, that's why you have people like us, right?

After Condi had so brilliantly and passionately defended the Iraq war, and the reasoning for it that included cites to reasons other than WMD's, half-wit Boxer smugly made this astounding statement:

BOXER: Well, you should read what we voted on when we voted to support the war, which I did not, but most of my colleagues did. It was WMD, period. That was the reason and the causation for that, you know, particular vote.

In trying to make a point that Condi's own words proved she's a liar Boxer became the proverbial Polish firing squad. (Save the emails Poles, as you probably call it an Italian firing squad, or the Irish call it a "British firing squad). Her very specific words state flatly that the presence of WMD's was the sole reason given in the legislation authorizing the Iraq war.

The only problem for Boxer is that the internet exists, and we can go back and read, and link to, the actual text of the resolution. As you can see we just linked to it, but feel it is important to lay the text of the findings in the actual resolution, with the important parts highlighted. It reads as follows:

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated; Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations';

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);

Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677';

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688';

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable';

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

Hmm, we might not be California Senators or math majors here at Crushkerry.com but we think Boxer should "read what they voted on", because going through the above we found at least 7 reasons (and we could say more, if one counts "enforcing the UN Security Council Resolutions as non-WMD reason, but we won't), separate and distinct from WMD's cited in the Resolution. Since Boxer (and judging from some of the comments in our stories and forums, left-wing Kos's Kool Aid Drinkers) are unable to read, we're going to make it simple and re-list them here, in case the missed them the first time:

1. Iraq's harboring of Al-Queda terrorists
2. Iraq's support for International Terrorism
3. Iraq's "brutal repression" of its citizens
4. Iraq's failure to repatriate or give information on non-Iraqi citizens detained and captured during Gulf War I, including an American serviceman;
5. Failing to properly return property wrongfully seized during the Kuwait invasion
6. The attempted assassination of former President Bush in 1993
7. America's national security interests in restoring peace and stability to the Persian Gulf

Maybe if Boxer actually went back and read the text of the legislation proposed on such an important issue (you will recall her patron Michael Moore complaining about just that in his fictional America-hating documentary Fahrenheit 9/11) she just might have voted for the war. Yeah right.

But if nothing else this episode shows the lies the far left moon bats are willing to float in order to smear the President and undermine the war effort. Hell, it used to be that Democrats would be smart enough not to lie about things so easily rebutted. But alas, their party is in a position where they can't even lie right anymore.

Oh, and one more thing Senator. Spare us your feigned concern for the troops. Your hatred of this President and the war is so transparent that it is damn near offensive for you to put on the false front of "supporting the troops". What you're doing with your lies is undermining their mission. Honest disagreement is one thing, but your foolishness and bile are certainly playing right into the hands of our enemies - foreign and domestic.


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To: crushkerry

Thank you for providing the documentation. I heard Boxer say this and knew it was false (and her smugness in stating her lie was indeed infuriating) and meant to look up the proof but then got sidetracked by the tantalizing developments in the Oil for Food Scandal.

She completely disgraced herself (as usual).

I was pleased to see Kay Bailey Hutchison and Tom DeLay on Fox and Friends this morning (separate segments) both say Boxer crossed the line and was inappropriate.


41 posted on 01/19/2005 5:56:01 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: lysie

You're welcome!


42 posted on 01/19/2005 5:56:55 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: basque
Did you not see the lineup on the Republican side. They are either leaning to the left or wimps, with the exception of George Allen.
43 posted on 01/19/2005 5:57:10 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: crushkerry
What was perhaps most infuriating about Boxer's pissy little tirade was that she cited a movie by a hate America lefty called Fog of War as if it were gospel, and had the unmitigated gall to basically call Condi a liar on Iraq.

that's the function of democrat-hollywood movies, they replace reality and history.

44 posted on 01/19/2005 5:58:52 AM PST by ken21 (4 as much time as u spend on the internet, u cd have several college degrees--daisy noonan)
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To: mewzilla

I think she'll be the lone voter against Condi.


45 posted on 01/19/2005 5:59:15 AM PST by newfrpr04
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To: NordP

My pleasure. When I think of what lurks within the empty caverns of her skull, I get SCARED, VERY SCARED!


46 posted on 01/19/2005 5:59:27 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: basque
With Lugar in charge we can't expect any different. He seems like he is in another world instead of a Senate hearing.
47 posted on 01/19/2005 6:00:15 AM PST by kcvl
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To: crushkerry

48 posted on 01/19/2005 6:01:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: newfrpr04
Actually, I think the more principled stand would be to vote against Dr. Rice, if Boxer really believes what she, Boxer, is spewing. But then if Boxer had any integrity, she wouldn't be making accusations like this without any proof. Only conclusion to be drawn then is that, no matter what she does and says, Boxer is the one without any integrity.
49 posted on 01/19/2005 6:02:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum

---So, we're fighting a war to enforce UN resolutions?

That's too bad, I'd like to see us totally out of the UN, but doing their work and enforcing their policies won't get us there. ---

Not exactly...

GHW Bush launched a war with Iraq in 1990 to free Kuwait. When we had thumped Saddam into submission, GHWB made the mistake of allowing the UN to define the terms of surrender. He did that to make it more multi-lateral and not a US vs Iraq scenario which he believed would cause friction in the Middle East.

Once that was done, the UN had authority to monitor the cease fire. However, the US did hold a right to resume the war if it felt any conditions were breached. That right never went away, however, Clinton ignored it for the most part with small exceptions for high-level bombing.

GWB, upon taking the white house, had the authority to resume the war at any time because Saddam had breached numerous provisions of the cease fire. He went to the UN and asked them to give Saddam an ultimatum which they did, and which Saddam told them to stuff. The rest is history.

For Boxer to ignore all of that history and pretend it was "only about WMD" is ludicrous, but the Dems seem bound to embarrass themselves with it.


50 posted on 01/19/2005 6:03:53 AM PST by Paloma_55
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To: HMFIC

You captured her as if you were a master of the arts! ;-)


52 posted on 01/19/2005 6:05:02 AM PST by NordP (MAY YOUR DREAMS COME ALIVE IN 2005!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Oh man, I love that!


53 posted on 01/19/2005 6:05:40 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Northern Yankee

Thanks, I appreciate the ping.


54 posted on 01/19/2005 6:06:21 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: basque

Oh please. Boxer acts beyond the pale and you decide to blame the Republicans?

That is ridiculous.

The Republicans did fine, Rice is not a baby who needed her hand held and she did well. The woman is going to be Secretary of State and will be dealing with worse than Barbie Boxer.

As it happened, Republicans did smack the dems, Dodd, Kerry and Boxer, in particular, around a bit, so get a grip.


55 posted on 01/19/2005 6:06:28 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Northern Yankee
Someone in this thread says, all these people do is lie. That about says it all.
56 posted on 01/19/2005 6:07:30 AM PST by 9999lakes
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To: crushkerry

"BOXER: Well, you should read what we voted on when we voted to support the war, which I did not, but most of my colleagues did. It was WMD, period. That was the reason and the causation for that, you know, particular vote."

Iraq was known to have used WMD on Iran and even Iraq's own citizens. Saddam refused to let the UN confirm there weren't any WMD left in Iraq. He thwarted efforts to prove his WMD program was no longer active for over 10 years. What choice did we have.

Let's use Boxer's own reasoning in this analogy. Back in 1969 Manson's family murdered Sharon Tate and several others. They suspected the Manson family but did not have the weapon. They conducted searches on the ranch they were living on at the time and didn't find the pistol used at the Tate residence. Using her reasoning you should have just left the Manson family alone because you didn't find what you were looking for.

Brain dead Boxer obviously believes you need a smoking gun to do what should have been done years ago when Saddam was using WMD against his enemies. I guess she wants more 9/11s so she can spew her venom against President Bush for not doing more to protect the US. Inaction in the past only empowered the terrorists to become more brash in their attacks against innocent civilians. 3000 victims are not enough to satiate the bloodlust Boxer and the other loons obviously enjoy, because if they did not get the point driven home by 9/11, they never will.


57 posted on 01/19/2005 6:07:59 AM PST by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: Grampa Dave

lol


58 posted on 01/19/2005 6:09:18 AM PST by martin_fierro (Holder of an M.A. Degree in The Obvious)
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To: mariabush

That marriage ended (I'm going by memory) about two years ago or so.


59 posted on 01/19/2005 6:11:12 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: SMARTY
Babs is a liar or stupid or both...... Bab's behavior was the realization that she was facing a person whose honor, dignity and talent were so surerior to hers that the only thing she could think of was to attack.....

that's what people with no honor do when they can't overwhelm you with bullsh!t.

60 posted on 01/19/2005 6:11:54 AM PST by B.O. Plenty
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