I need to read this through, it may be there, but for what it's worth, Jon...we need to address border security. Fixing the problem with illegal workers is moot if you can't control how and where they enter the country.
I need to read this through, it may be there, but for what it's worth, Jon...we need to address border security. Fixing the problem with illegal workers is moot if you can't control how and where they enter the country.
When the president proposes a general amnesty for all Americans currently engaged in federal felonies or misdemeanors then perhaps I might consider an amnesty for illegal aliens fair. Not until then. Why would the citizens of another country somehow qualify for special privileges, such as being able to commit federal crimes without fear of prosecution, with a reasonable expectation of being amnestied? To say it's extra-Constitutional is to put it mildly.
And here's something Jon forgot: we already have "guest worker" programs. The alphabet soup of visas for "temporary workers", such as the H and L visas, and a bunch of others that I don't want to waste time looking up. Those visa compartments could simply be expanded. The problem for the politicos is this - they don't include amnesty, which is what they are really after.
The whole "guest worker" babble is a fraud. It's an amnesty; we already have temporary worker programs; and the country isn't in "need" of unskilled to marginally skilled workers; Mexico merely "needs" to export it's problems, as Dougherty admits.
One last. Would these "workers" be included in the census? Would their ethnicity be included in deciding "communities of interest", which could be used to gerry mander political districts so as to "elect one of their own" to represent them? Or to apportion Affirmative Action slots to people who share their ethnicity in government and education?
A million problems with all of it. The real answer: enforce the existing laws, and, as HiJinx said, control the borders.
There's no mention of how long these temps are going to be allowed to stay.
There's no mention of fines for employers who hire anyone not documented.
There's no mention of how we're going to shut down the border traffic.
I think it's a given some form of amnesty is going to pass.
When GW gets his teeth into something, he doesn't let go.
I just hope he's not so bullheaded he won't listen to reasonable changes in his plan.
"Companies hiring them must insure them so they don't overload local health facilities."
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Wrong answer.
How about they cover their own asses...like most Americans.
Why put this BS off on small business owners (again).
No guest worker program without first sealing (and I mean SEALING 100%) the borders, deporting ALL the illegals here right now, and showing a demonstrable way of keeping track of those they let in under a guest worker program (good luck HA!).
And like other visas, employers should first demonstrate that they have tried and failed to fill the empty position(s) with an American citizen.
You think this is gonna stop at just Mexicans? Every turd bowl country in the world will want a piece of this "amnesty." Mexican neo-slaves remit 150 billion dollars back to Mexico, and what corrupt turd world cleptocracy doesn't want that kind of action?
Very very important. As is leaving the family back home. The guest worker should be allowed to stay 3 or 4 months max --- enough time for harvest season or a short-term project --- then back home.
Good suggestions. I am in favor of a guest worker program, but I think there have got to be demands made on the workers and Mexico, too. So far, the details aren't very clear, and I think this is the time to make suggestions. It hasn't even been formally proposed or gone to Congress yet, so this is the time to do get in there.
Read later, thanks.