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1 posted on 12/18/2004 3:32:53 PM PST by 4lifeandliberty
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To: 4lifeandliberty

There is something very rotten in 'Denmark'.


2 posted on 12/18/2004 3:34:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

SOunds like they want ot find out what HATE really is!


3 posted on 12/18/2004 3:51:31 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

We cannot let this stand, This is CRAP!!!


4 posted on 12/18/2004 3:52:08 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

I detest "hate crime" legislation. Something is either a crime or it isn't.

I didn't see in the article what the 4 still charged are alleged to have done and that makes it impossible to offer an opinion about the charge against them. Making people feel uncomfortable - not a crime. Assault - a crime, no matter who does it or why. What exactly were these folks doing?

Since I don't know what the protestors were doing, the following observations may or may not apply. In general, I'm not in favor of "in-your-face" counter demonstrations simply meant to disrupt somebody else's event. They produce a lot of heat and not much light. I hate it when the other side does it to me, so the Golden Rule says I don't do it to them.

As a Christian, simply expressing my anger or rage at homosexual political posturing doesn't say everything I want to say. I doubt that too many converts are made in shouting matches, and Jesus did say, "Love your enemies." Hate the sin - love the sinner. I think there are better ways to fight for what's right.


5 posted on 12/18/2004 4:01:35 PM PST by bin2baghdad
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To: 4lifeandliberty
Not too much spin


6 posted on 12/18/2004 5:20:28 PM PST by sandviper
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To: 4lifeandliberty

BumpTTT.


18 posted on 12/20/2004 9:34:17 PM PST by vox_freedom (Wishes for a blessed Christmas to all!)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

BTTT


21 posted on 12/20/2004 11:29:49 PM PST by hattend (Christ is the reason for the season)
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To: 4lifeandliberty
I believe this persecution of peaceful Christians by bigots and activists in Philadelphia is part of God's plan.

The Liberals have way, waaay over reached for too long. I pray this case will be a watershed event in our history.

Either Good will prevail, and the people who suppress people of faith will be sent reeling on their heels. Or, Evil will temporarily triumph, to show the rest of the sleeping nation just how far down the road to hell we have traveled.


23 posted on 12/21/2004 3:05:56 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: 4lifeandliberty

Where is Fox news on this story? I have not seen anything from them yet. I know the MSN won't show this, but what about Fox?


24 posted on 12/21/2004 3:56:57 AM PST by Nightshift (Ignorance on your part, doesn't require a reply on my part.)
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I think this happened in Philadelphia, Mississippi


29 posted on 12/21/2004 5:18:53 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 4lifeandliberty; DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah

Consider this: Hate is the absence of love and/or respect.
So fundamentally, Hate Crime laws find the accused guilty of not "loving and/or respecting" the 'hated' person or group of people.
It says in effect: "You are guilty of not loving so and so."
In other words, you are found guilty of breaking Gods' command......"Thou shalt love thy neighbor....."


30 posted on 12/21/2004 5:53:49 AM PST by Lindykim (")
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To: 4lifeandliberty

How to silence a part of society (Philadelphia 11)

Dear Editor (of the Philly Inquirer),

A few days ago, a group of citizens (11 to be exact) were arrested on public property for peacefully talking and demonstrating.

And even though these 11 citizens were verbally abused, harassed and spat upon by a hostile crowd, they remained peaceful and fully cooperated with the police.

Yet they were charged with criminal conspiracy, possession of instruments of crime, reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways.

They are facing up to 47 years in jail each.

Now, in any normal society, the major newspapers of that city would be up in arms over such reckless thrashing of the First Amendment. They would logically come to the conclusion that their entire business (and jobs) are based on the preservation of the First Amendment and any abuse that could be use to silence peaceful citizens could one day be used to silence them.

But that is not how the city of Philadelphia works.

First Amendment "privileges" are now reserved for those who agree with the social policies of the media and of City Hall. Disagreement brings marginality and arrest.

Because the "Philadelphia 11" were evangelical Christians at a homosexual festival.

Not even in the darkest days of "Jim Crow" laws have such power and venom been brought to bear to silence a part of society.

Oh yeah, and the "possession of instruments of crime" - that was a Bible. The "ethnic intimidation" - that is from the newest "victim" category of "sexual orientation" to Pennsylvania's hate crime law where now you can be arrested for talking about the Bible in the wrong company.

And all this happened within walking distance of where the US Constitution was written and signed.

Best Regards,

2banana


35 posted on 12/21/2004 6:47:28 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

I find this deeply disturbing that this incident is discussed as if something like this never happend before to someone on the right in Philadelphia. What happened to my brother in particular on October 1, 1998 was even worse.


42 posted on 12/21/2004 11:21:33 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Not to be confused with tdadams!!!!)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

The Gay-istas are on the rampage!


49 posted on 12/21/2004 1:39:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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