Christians Face long Jail Time In Philadelphia

Wisconsin Christians United ^ | 12/18/04 | Dennis Green

[hattend]

BTTT

[so_real]

My hat's off to you guys. Anything a non-resident can do to help out?

(thanks for the ping, Pyro7480)

[SkyPilot]

I believe this persecution of peaceful Christians by bigots and activists in Philadelphia is part of God's plan.

The Liberals have way, waaay over reached for too long. I pray this case will be a watershed event in our history.

Either Good will prevail, and the people who suppress people of faith will be sent reeling on their heels. Or, Evil will temporarily triumph, to show the rest of the sleeping nation just how far down the road to hell we have traveled.

[Nightshift]

Where is Fox news on this story? I have not seen anything from them yet. I know the MSN won't show this, but what about Fox?

[tutstar]

I never had the impression that the "11" were antagonistic from any of the articles I've read. Anyone who has shared the gospel of Jesus Christ with a lost soul on a regular basis will testify that sinners convicted by the Holy Spirit will sometimes become irate. It's the message not the messenger that produces such anger in them. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. The homosexuals don't want "anyone" to say "anything" against their lifestyle. I hope you'll watch the video and read these other links to get some background on this case. You'll be up to speed if you do. Video of Christians at Outfest in Philadelphia

FR Compiliation: Background on Michael Marcavage (Leader of Christian Group Arrested in Philly)

Christianity now "hate crime": the bible is "hate speech" subject to seizure

[StonyBurk]

The Philadephia Cream Cheese has gone very bad--smells
worse than Liburger on a hot manifold.

[StonyBurk]

My understanding is the Judge has gone after only those who
cited Scripture.(On the vidiotape) They were apparantly told they could not be blocked from the sidewalks.And None of sp called Pink angels who surrounded them and tried to
shout them down using blasphemy and cursing and police wistles were charged only the Christians who cited Scripture
This in th eCity that displays the Liberty Bell with Leviticus XXV:X -where Ben Franklin noted in 1787 "We are
assured ,Sir, in the Sacred Writings that Except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it."Where James Wilson taught American Law and noted Our laws must not
violate Divine Law.In Philly -divine Law is now Hate speech.

[tutstar]

Philadelphia city prosecutor in the case, Charles Ehrlich, attacked the Christians as “hateful” and referred to preaching the Bible as “fighting words,” the judge agreed.

[2banana]

I think this happened in Philadelphia, Mississippi

[Lindykim]

Consider this: Hate is the absence of love and/or respect.
So fundamentally, Hate Crime laws find the accused guilty of not "loving and/or respecting" the 'hated' person or group of people.
It says in effect: "You are guilty of not loving so and so."
In other words, you are found guilty of breaking Gods' command......"Thou shalt love thy neighbor....."

[newgeezer]

Check out this thread, especially #9. I'm listening for that trumpet sound!

[DirtyHarryY2K]

I think this happened in Philadelphia, Mississippi

This happened in Philadelphia, Pa. Within walking distance of where the Constitution was written and signed. That is a fact.

[stevio]

God be with you all. Is anything being dome to get this out to the MSM? Maybe we need to have a HUGE counter-protest for their next event.

[2banana]

How to silence a part of society (Philadelphia 11)

Dear Editor (of the Philly Inquirer),

A few days ago, a group of citizens (11 to be exact) were arrested on public property for peacefully talking and demonstrating.

And even though these 11 citizens were verbally abused, harassed and spat upon by a hostile crowd, they remained peaceful and fully cooperated with the police.

Yet they were charged with criminal conspiracy, possession of instruments of crime, reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways.

They are facing up to 47 years in jail each.

Now, in any normal society, the major newspapers of that city would be up in arms over such reckless thrashing of the First Amendment. They would logically come to the conclusion that their entire business (and jobs) are based on the preservation of the First Amendment and any abuse that could be use to silence peaceful citizens could one day be used to silence them.

But that is not how the city of Philadelphia works.

First Amendment "privileges" are now reserved for those who agree with the social policies of the media and of City Hall. Disagreement brings marginality and arrest.

Because the "Philadelphia 11" were evangelical Christians at a homosexual festival.

Not even in the darkest days of "Jim Crow" laws have such power and venom been brought to bear to silence a part of society.

Oh yeah, and the "possession of instruments of crime" - that was a Bible. The "ethnic intimidation" - that is from the newest "victim" category of "sexual orientation" to Pennsylvania's hate crime law where now you can be arrested for talking about the Bible in the wrong company.

And all this happened within walking distance of where the US Constitution was written and signed.

Best Regards,

2banana

[Esther Ruth]

Praying for you all very much today. Emailed as many as I can think of who have large influence to keep the trumpets sounding. With so many in conservative radio on vacation and talking about other things, I hope and pray this gets the attention it needs, and now.

[biblewonk]

Sodomites in high places.

[desherwood7]

Something rotten in Denmark? It sounds as if Denmark is exporting their anti-Christian bigotry over here.

[weshess]

I detest "hate crime" legislation.

I agree why should the race of my victim matter? If I commit a crime I should be treated "Equally" under the law regardless of the race of my victim. Why is equal protection alright for voting and not alright in the criminal courts?

[weshess]

I still say the Judge needs to be impeached, he does not know what the meaning of fighting words is. According to Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942) fighting words are those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of peace. They must be directed at a "particular" person (not a group).