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1 posted on 12/06/2004 10:19:18 AM PST by KMC1
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The SA is plenty other places instead of Target this year. In my area they are at Wal-Mart and Kroger grocery stores in central Ohio. Be generous when you see them, or just send them a check if you don't see them.


2 posted on 12/06/2004 10:21:17 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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Frye's in Austin is hosting the Salvation Army. I made sure I gave a donation in Target's name.

Plus I'm boycotting Target this year for this reason.


3 posted on 12/06/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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The Target store in my town is right next door to Hastings. Well, Hastings has allowed the SA guy to ring outside their store, and he kind of stands close to the border between the two stores, which I think is funny and kind of a neat "thumbing the nose" at Target. You know "there but not-there"!


5 posted on 12/06/2004 10:26:08 AM PST by luvie (WE DID NOT WAVER; WE DID NOT TIRE; WE DID NOT FALTER; AND WE DID NOT FAIL!! GWB ROCKS!!!!!!!!)
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Target had said that it will raise money for the Salvation Army in other ways besides bell ringing in front of its stores. And that the SA was kicked out because they were getting requests from less savory groups that they did not want soliciting on their property.

This whole story is way overblown. The SA is not even leading the charge.


8 posted on 12/06/2004 10:30:41 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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There's a brand-new Target Supercenter a couple miles from my house.

At least, I assume it's still there. Haven't seen it since the anti-Salvation Army story hit the streets.

9 posted on 12/06/2004 10:31:40 AM PST by newgeezer (...until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.)
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And while Target is glad to take the last $10 bucks off of a homeless person who is in need of a winter coat and who purchases one in their store from the sale bin, Target is unwilling to allow the Salvation Army to raise funds to help that same homeless person make it through a blustery cold freezing night.

...this statement makes NO sense! Target is a retailer that will gladly take the last $10 from anyone! As well they should if supplying a coat! This article implies that Target represents evil and capitalism. If Target chooses to keep the SA away from their stores, fine. If it upsets you that much, stop shopping there. Why the big deal? Having your hand out to the SA doesn't give you the right to force your way onto a business' property!


10 posted on 12/06/2004 10:33:29 AM PST by albie
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Never shopped at Target and never will. I hope this whole thing bites them in the butt big time.


17 posted on 12/06/2004 10:49:12 AM PST by Lee Heggy (Never tell a lie--except for practice. Mark Twain)
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This was the last straw for me with Target... they've done lots of dumb things over the years, sexualized clothing for children... etc etc etc...

But this was the last straw for me.. My family usually does a large amount of our Christmas shopping at Target, dropping anywhere from 1000 to 2000 every December....

Guess what... Not any more. Target (prounounced tar-zhay) can kiss those profits goodbye.... on and just for the record, our household income is far above their nationwide average....


19 posted on 12/06/2004 10:53:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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Isn't Target/Mervynn's and a couple other large retail chains the result of the Dayton family of Minnesota? The same Minnesota congresscritter that bears the family name. If I remember right he was the one that wanted to close his D.C. offices due to terrorist fears.


Just another example of "wonderful" (dripping sarcasm) liberalism at work.


22 posted on 12/06/2004 10:57:16 AM PST by HiramQuick
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Amen.
Supposedly Mervyn's published something a few days ago that said that THEY have not banned the kettles.

When the Target story first broke, someone on here said they thought it might have to do with the union - and that if they allowed the bell ringers, they'd have to allow the union to distribute info. That could be the "less-savory" group they're referring to.

All I can say is that Target is NOT getting any more of my business. I'll shop at the Salvation Army store right across the street!!!

I only wish we had a Macy's store nearby - I'd enjoy boycotting them, too.


25 posted on 12/06/2004 11:12:02 AM PST by mumzie (www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com)
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The Target nearest my home has had a table set up for about a month now to sign a petition for parental notification for abortions. I was very surprised at that.


30 posted on 12/06/2004 11:30:27 AM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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I will shop more at Target!

My family gives a significant portion of our income to charities, but we make careful decision about where we send our money. I do not give to anyone who "begs" for money without first knowing about the group. I prefer to make informed decisions and not spontaneous ones.

What bothers me about the SA bell ringers and many of the responses to this post is the attitude that the SA is entitled to beg at the entrance of stores. In past years there have been news articles about other organizations and even some individuals that setup shop in front of stores as if they were the SA, but then use the money for their cause or even for themselves. If a retail store allows the SA to solicit for money, how could they justify stopping another organization from doing the same? Would you like MoveOn.org (or any organization that you don't like)at the entrance of every store raising funds for their political candidates? Or, as a business owner, would you like MoveOn.org to tell everyone "don't shop here because they won't allow us to solicit. To me it is a lose-lose proposition for Target and they are wise to get out of the whole arrangement.

While I do not work for target or hold stock in their company, the nonprofit that I work for (an education-based one) has benefited greatly from Target's corporate giving. Just because they do not support SA bell ringers does not mean they are the Grinch. Our organization recently received a letter from Target on this issue that pointed out that the SA was informed of this decision a year ago so that if there was to be a financial impact on their organization, they could plan for it and come up with alternative funding sources. If their is a financial impact on the Salvation Army, it is the SA's problem, not Target's.
33 posted on 12/06/2004 11:46:58 AM PST by rightsmart (Was W '04, now W '0N)
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I've boycotted Target ever since they stopped selling smokes back in '99. It's just an overpriced Walmart anyway.


35 posted on 12/06/2004 11:50:02 AM PST by mysterio
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According to choosetheblue.com, a website that encourages people to buy from companies that financially supported democrats rather than companies that supported republicans, Target Corp donated 72% of their political giving to republicans and only 28% to democrats.
40 posted on 12/06/2004 12:07:08 PM PST by rightsmart (Was W '04, now W '0N)
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While I plan on writing my check to the Salavation Army, but there is something to be said for demonstrating and witnessing through action. It is an important lessons for our kids and children to not only see us put a donation in the kettle, but to be able to help put a donation in the kettle. Kids start to see that they too can help and starts them on a path to future giving as an adult.

Yes, I can certainly have kids sit down with me when I write the check, but it's not the same and it does not make the same impact.

Because of that, we will shop where a kettle is present and where kids can play a part!


42 posted on 12/06/2004 12:24:46 PM PST by ushr435
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Now I'm not some highly paid executive, but to me this backlash was very foreseeable. Makes me wonder if someone sought advice from sycophants.

This will reflect in Targets quarterly earnings, and I fear Bob Ulrich won't be getting a raise this year.


44 posted on 12/06/2004 12:58:26 PM PST by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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I have lots of shopping choices. I usually did give my year end change to the SA in front of Target and the Band was even playing and all to the side, not blocking the entrances to Target.

Normally, I hit Target once a week. I haven't been there since they stiffed the Salvation Army. Consider how much the Salvation Army did in Florida when we were hit by four hurricanes. I guess Minnesotan ceos forgot to calculate that the SA is a really good cause and another American tradition that is getting the boot due to cries of sep of church and state.

45 posted on 12/06/2004 3:52:39 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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Are you emailing your thread to Target?


47 posted on 12/06/2004 3:54:36 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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I went up to 2 bell ringers outside K-Mart on Saturday to make a donation and this is what one bellringer said to me:

Thank you, have a merry Chri...., uh, merry holiday...

Evidently the Salvation Army has received P.C. marching orders to eliminate "Christmas" from their holiday vocabulary......

I said to the individual that we are celebrating the birth of Christ and that I would have preferred "Merry Christmas".....

49 posted on 12/06/2004 5:12:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Michigan's last flock of penguins left for the west coast in 1823 never to be heard from again.)
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lets everyone grinch the Target this year. The best way to fight these clowns is to give them a swift kick right where it hurts the most, in the pocket book.


51 posted on 12/06/2004 6:23:58 PM PST by A6M3
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