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Soviets/Germans Planned Breakup of Ukraine/Eastern in Advance (!!!)
Tydenik Politika | 11.14-11.20, 1991

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:32:51 PM PST by TapTheSource

The following is the translated text of the November 14-20, 1991 issue of Tydenik Politika, which appeared in Prague newsstands during that same period. Notice that the Soviets and the Germans reached an agreement to carve up Eastern Europe (to include the Ukraine) before the events themselves occured. If anyone has a scanner and a copy of the book “European Union Collective: Enemy of its Member States” by Christopher Story, I would appreciate a scan of page 205, which contains a facsimile of the original Tydenik Politka document in question. Please notice that these Geneva agreements were made BEFORE the breakup of the Soviet Union and therefore anticipated the same (in other words, the breakup of the Soviet Union was a top-down affair). Notes are in brackets.

Tydenik Politika: Private Journal, for Politics and Economics November 14-20,1991 Issue

· The German Federal Republic demands (sic) from the USSR compensation for annexed eastern Prussia and for the area east of the Oder-Niesse. [Note: In the event, Chancellor Helmut Kohl announced in 1990 the final German renunciation of any revision of the Oder-Niesse border with Poland. This is one of the peculiar anomalies of this document; but it does not undermine its significance, given that the division of Czechoslovakia and the destabilization and carve-up of Yugoslavia were accurately anticipated therein].

· The German Federal Republic demand [sic] withdrawal of Soviet influence in the Bohemian-Moravian region. The Soviet Union is unwilling to tolerate in the vicinity of their borders a Czechoslovak Federal Republic regime which does not accept the Soviet gesture that allowed Husak’s regime to fall in Czechoslovakia. The Government of Czechoslovak Socialist Federal Republic is unceasing in its agitation against the USSR and is making the position of the Soviet Government and the President more and more difficult. This is a position that is different from that of the Polish and Hungarian Governments.

· The USSR will [therefore] not object to the splitting of the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, due to an insufficient guarantee of political equilibrium in Central Europe and the lack of statesmanship of the Bohemian and Moravian regions within the sphere of economic interests of the German Federal Republic and the political incorporation of these regions into Germany within 12-15 years [clock started ticking somewhere between September-October 1990].

· The Federal Republic of Germany will compensate the USSR for the economic losses thus inflicted on the Soviet Union.

· The Federal German Republic will prepare for a possible decline in popularity of the present Czechoslovak Socialist Federal Republic leadership by preparing groups, having a positive attitude towards Germany and which are acceptable even to the Soviet Union, drawn as an alternative even from left-wing parties [sic], without evident interference in the process of proliferation of political parties. [Note: This represents confirmation that the Czech and Slovak ‘democracies’ are false, controlled exercises in Soviet ‘democratism’: see Part I for ‘democratism’ details].

· With regard to the willingness of Hungary to maintain political and economic stability in the Danube region, the USSR and the Federal Republic of Germany will not object to the re-establishment of Hungary with the original boarders, as stipulated by the Trianon Treaty. The Federal Republic of Germany will increase its economic aid to Hungary in order to lift the standard of living in Hungary above that [prevailing] in Slovakia, so that joining Hungary becomes attractive to Slovakia.

· The USSR has no objections to the establishment of a German university and high schools in the regions of Bohemia and Moravia, and to the financing of these schools by Germany.

· The USSR does not object to the breaking-up of Yugoslavia, and supports the transfer of Croatia and Slovenia into the economic sphere of Germany.

· The USSR has no objections to the deployment of [the means of procuring] political destabilization [as subsequently materialized in Yugoslavia].

· The Federal Republic of Germany will not become engaged in issues concerning Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, and will not consider them to be an area of [Germany’s] economic interest, above and beyond an acceptable level.

· With USSR will not object to the separation of Ciscarpathian Ukraine in the event of destabilizing activity undertaken by [controlled] Ukrainian nationalists, and its incorporation into a Hungarian Republic.

· The USSR does not object to the gradual colonization of the Czech border areas by Soviets and Germans [sic: probably a reference to Russian ethnic Germans].


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To: TapTheSource

Huh?

What views? I haven't expressed any views here. Just pointed out one significant fact (our re-organization was undertaken with a year's advance agreement on its profile by the former Soviets) and asked you a question.

I don't think it's a particularly loaded question.

I'm not speaking for or questioning you on behalf of the Catholic Church. And I realize you're loaded for bear with anti-Catholic bigotry but I couldn't care less and don't really care to hear it.

I'd just like to know how your organize your thinking, that's all. What's the point here of "waking folks up" to militant atheism abroad when most -- including Israel -- have their own backyard to tend to?


41 posted on 11/29/2004 9:50:38 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: TapTheSource

Additionally, it's been a very long day and I'm headed to bed. See you tomorrow.

Good night.


42 posted on 11/29/2004 9:52:28 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: TapTheSource
Thank you Tap. I never once believed communism had been completely defeated. It seems I was perhaps correct in my "paranoid" assumptions about the Russian government.
43 posted on 11/29/2004 9:53:36 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the ping! I'm very glad to have seen this.


44 posted on 11/29/2004 9:54:23 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: TapTheSource
At this time Kohl--who was an ally of Ronald Reagan--was trying to draw Croatia out of the Soviet orbit. It's likely the other partitions originally had the same intent. Germany didn't go pro-Russian/anti-US until Schroeder's coalition began to ascend after 1990, which coupled with Bill Clinton's election produced a shift in the emphasis of NATO policy in the former Yugoslavia, from Croatian independence to Bosnian independence. With Schroeder's ascent former East German influence increased in Germany. Among other things Schroeder demanded that Bill Clinton give back files on East German Stasi infiltration of the West that the US had obtained.
45 posted on 11/29/2004 11:53:17 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Paperdoll

Funny enough, Lenin wrote an essay in early 1900s called... "United States of Europe"


46 posted on 11/30/2004 1:18:29 AM PST by K. Smirnov (Do not let the sands of time get into your lunch)
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To: TapTheSource

I had always wondered why Germany continued to subsidize France according to EU rules especially the inefficient French agriculture sector. Estimates are that Germany has paid France more money than France demanded as reparations following WWI.

A month ago, I met a businessman whom I met at a Cheney rally told me -"because Germany wants to control Europe."

That didn't make sense at first but now it does - Germany is driving France into a welfare state that will have virtually no economic strength and thus no political power as time goes on. Perhaps Germany is "invading" all of Europe without the use of an army.


47 posted on 11/30/2004 8:23:44 AM PST by matchwood
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To: K. Smirnov

Ping, KS

Perhaps Putin will call it USSSIR - The United States of Socialist Soviet Imperial Russia, niet? He is Risen, K.


48 posted on 11/30/2004 10:00:40 AM PST by Paperdoll
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Ping


49 posted on 11/30/2004 9:50:04 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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Ping


50 posted on 11/30/2004 10:28:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Bookmark. Thank you.


51 posted on 12/01/2004 6:17:12 AM PST by Velveeta
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