Posted on 11/22/2004 7:14:57 AM PST by Birdstrike
" I hereby invite you to try and make me leave."
You'll be safe then. These "Christian nation" types are notorious for running their mouths and keyboards and never actually doing anything. In some extreme cases, they'll bravely wear white sheets on their heads to support their phony "Christian" causes.
"...We do not deport or jail people in this nation for their religious beliefs. The minute we start doing that, there is no USA any longer..."
I understand that. This isn't about legitimate religion. We deport them for their tacet support of Jihad - which is not so much a religious belief as it is a conspiracy to commit mass murder. That's the difference. Look, if your neighbor openly supports Jihad and flies the Islamic flag...are you going to wait until he takes action to protect your family? The support of Jihad is a key distinction. Get over the author's piece, it's admittedly over the top. But there are legitimate security issues raised in our fundamental misunderstanding and underestimating the threat of holy war declared against us.
"...expressing all this concern about some shadowy Islamic movement to take over the country...'
That's right because it's not some insignificant threat to be blown off. We play right into the hands of our enemies by diminishing the threat they pose. Again, what is it going to take to convince you that Jihad is the greatest current threat to western civilization and that we must answerit both within and without our borders?
"We deport them for their tacet support of Jihad "
Can we deport all Klan members and those who support them? How about all neo-Nazis? No doubt that Nazi ideals are a threat too! What about anti-Zionists?
I'd like to also deport all Georgia football fans. They are a threat to my sanity.
I know, beacuse we've all heard those stories about people flying the islamic flag, then killing their neighbors. Wake up people! If you see these flags, call birdstrike, he'll waddle away from his computer and rescue you!
"Pretty basic, but some are not hearing you"
Oh, they hear me. The main poster in this thread, birdstrike, is a recent member of Free Republic. Another poster has suggested that some people have come here from sites like stormfront.org to troll.
Now, I won't call this birdstrike a troll, but he's certainly not suggesting anything that is possible under our constitution. He's heard from many here who won't stand for this nonsense. We understand that ejecting one group because of their religion is just a beginning.
We won't make the mistake that other nations have made in targeting a group for their hatred. That's what the jihadists do. That's not what the United States of America does.
I cannot remember a thread where I read so many anti-American statements. I am disgusted.
You're right the article is juvenile, though perhaps not totally "flawed" in that I suspect it's designed to identify like-thinkers.
"Again, what is it going to take to convince you that Jihad is the greatest current threat to western civilization "
A. I dunno - some sort of action by the President that tightens our borders from illegal immigration, rather than the floodgate-opening legislation he's so dilgently signed?
B. Also, we'd better start calling back the Nat'l Guard troops from Iraq, as these deportation ideas require far more manpower than we currently have deployable.
C. Are you suggesting that the threat here at home is larger than that in Iraq? If so, you should be writing the Commander in Chief alerting him to this new threat! If you're correct, why are we wasting money and American lives in Iraq?
Don't be digusted. It is, truly, amusing. The fact that they are here means they can't be out, doing something, for real.
"Get over the author's piece, it's admittedly over the top. But there are legitimate security issues raised in our fundamental misunderstanding and underestimating the threat of holy war declared against us."
Bull-hockey. You're just backing down because you're seeing that you're getting nailed by people who understand how our Consitution protects us all.
Personally, I suspect that you've come here from some site like stormfront.org to troll here. I cannot prove that, but I suspect it.
You'll find it doesn't work. For every two people here who will parrot your words, there are ten who will tell you just how wrong you are.
If you want a discussion, post sensible threads. If you want an argument, you'll find that here too, but those arguing against you have their wits about them.
If you want to get tossed from FR, just go a little bit further than you did with this post today.
It's all up to you.
"I know, beacuse we've all heard those stories about people flying the islamic flag, then killing their neighbors. Wake up people! If you see these flags, call birdstrike, he'll waddle away from his computer and rescue you!"
LOL! Waddle! You have the same picture in your head that's in mine.
"Don't be digusted. It is, truly, amusing. The fact that they are here means they can't be out, doing something, for real."
That may well be true of the poster in question. It is not, however, true of others.
"...We understand that ejecting one group because of their religion is just a beginning....We won't make the mistake that other nations have made in targeting a group for their hatred. That's what the jihadists do. That's not what the United States of America does...I cannot remember a thread where I read so many anti-American statements. I am disgusted.
You're also pompous. If you want to disagree with the article, fine, go ahead and do so on its merits or lack thereof. But you are the one displayimg intolerance with your repeated attacks on me, the poster, and hearty concurrence with slinging insults at me for posting it.
I thought the premise was interesting and I defended parts of it as I'm a debater. Pull up the flightinfo.com website and do a search on Birdstrike. My posts are all there. There are degrees of "ejection" and we would do well to consider the author's points, that's all. Can that be dome without reference to white supremacy groups and all that? I've not mentioned any of that and that's not where I'm coming from in posting here. What's the fact that I'm a newbie have to do with anything? Don't you welcome fresh ideas here or only those that conform to FR group think?
I know the piece was over the top but deal with it rationally and point by point. You sound like a raving Deomocrat who apersonally attacks the poster over dealing effectively with the content of the post. Contrary to you're pronouncements, deportation remains a possible instrument of US policy. Likely? Hell no. But you don't have to be a John Bircher to consider that there may be some merits to parts of such a policy. That's all!
Heck, I'm a recent member(I've been a Lurker for a couple of years). If this is a troll invasion, it's certainly not any more controversial than some other threads.
Nothing like politics or religion to get a strong response/
If he is HERE to find like minded thinks then he is flawed.
Where the majority of America may have been ignoant of Jahid prior to 9/11/01 I do not believe that is the case today.
I also went back and read your post on the Genocide Treaty. I better understand your comment. Very well done. Please put me on that PING list.
Well, I did go over to that site, and found this in one post you made there. It's an excerpt, but makes it pretty clear where you stand:
This may get me in trouble but.....call a medic...that looks like a sucking chest wound!!!!!
"This may get me in trouble but.....call a medic...that looks like a sucking chest wound!!!!!"
It does, doesn't it. And the guy TOLD me to go there and read his posts. I'm not joining that chat forum to go searching for his stuff, but there that was, right in the thread.
Oh well...I was right.
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