Posted on 11/22/2004 7:14:57 AM PST by Birdstrike
The Muslim religion preaches the extreme and death to those who do not believe in it. Jihadists are following their religion. They are the greatest threat to the security of the world and therefore they should be kept out of our country and confined to their own, where they can preach what they want and live in the dark ages if they so choose.
They are not a threat because they don't live in democracies, they are a threat becasue of what they believe. Read their "holy" book and see for yourself.
There are hundreds of mosques right here in the USA and millions of muslims, many of whom call themselves Americans. Yet their silence is deafening. Which one can I trust? I have not heard or seen a single one of them speak out against the disregard for human life or the violence that you say is "not the average Muslim."
What and who is the "average Muslim"? Is it one that doesn't commit the violence himself but condones it, finances it and does nothing to prevent it or won't even raise his voice against it? Who are these "moderate and average" Muslims of which you speak and where do they live? Why don't you tell me that? Or should I just wait for the next act of murder and the repetition of silence from the bretheren of those that commit it?
You see I don't care what they "believe" but I do care what they do in my country. As long as they stay in their own country I don't care how they live. I would like to see us stay out of their countries and stop trying to tell them what to believe, how to live or what to do. However, the minute they come out of their lairs they make themselves fair game.
If they or you want me to believe that the "average Muslim" is a good guy that I should trust and give sanctuary in my house, then let the "average Muslims" come forward and let me hear their voice. Until they do, I am unable to tell the difference between this average guy you're talking about and the one that's just waiting for his chance to stab me or my brother in the back.
I'm not asking them to think like me or to believe what I believe and I really don't care if they read the Quran or the Bible. As long as they are a threat I don't want them in my house. It will take a lot of convincing on their part to get me to accept that they are not my enemy. That's their problem not mine. Until they are able to do it, I would like them to go home. I have neither the time or the desire to "convert" them to anything.
Judaism had the first fair law and a code of ethics. And btw, your first post said all who are not Christians are guests. Either retract or just try to deport me. Jerk.
"...Of course I condemn Jihad..."
Then you're one of the first to publicly proclaim it. The silence really is deafening. Muslims proactively set forth Jihad...it's out there. Unless you get your leaders to disavow it, you, unfortunately, remain a threat to national security as long as you call yourself a Muslim...I can take no other position.
Nope, they are apostates. And the 'Jews for Jesus' who were never born Jewish nor halachically converted aren't Jews at all, no matter how many 'seders' they attend.
Sure, leave.
It's always nice to hear form the *uck the Muslims, *uck the Jews, *uck the Hindus, and everyone else component of conservatism.
In step 2 they start bashing the "non-Christian", Christians. It's important to get the denomination right.
"So you say that Jefferson, Paine, Adams were not Founding fathers?"
Well done - nice response on post #27. Good luck getting a rational reply!
Also, we have a President who knows who the real enemies are and would never think of deporting innocent Americans based on their religious beliefs.
""...Of course I condemn Jihad..."
Then you're one of the first to publicly proclaim it. The silence really is deafening. Muslims proactively set forth Jihad...it's out there. Unless you get your leaders to disavow it, you, unfortunately, remain a threat to national security as long as you call yourself a Muslim...I can take no other position."
"Well, there it is. I suppose there will always be some sort of knee-jerk movement going on in this country. As always, it ignores the basic fundamentals that make the USA so great. "
That's "compassionate conservatives" for ya. Not all of 'em, but I'm sure many of the pro-deportation posters here consider themselves to be comp. conservatives.
Most Muslims see radical, fundamentalist Islam as a threat to their own religion. Saying that their silence is deafening only shows you know no Muslims personally, and you don't care to.
"I wasn't aware that atheists even believed in Allah, let alone heard his calling. Learn something new every day on FR.
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Most of these ideas are completely unAmerican. Embarrasing.
I agree...
I have been told that I am not a Jew because I don't adhere to one or the other sect (to tell the truth, these are mainly Christian sects masquerading as Jews)...
As to tell that the founding fathers told that the US should be a Christian nation, it's just false!
You should see what I have been told about it...
Sending me to Hell (which doesn't exist) would be the milder of the insults... :-)
Then they are not Jews...
because Jsus isn'Lt the messiah... As simple as that!
He's scarier than any Muslim I know.
Agreed...
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